The Young Guns #4: Crack In The Monument
Blue Yeti ·
Aug 25, 2011 at 4:16pm
This week, it's a west coast versus east coast smack down as The Guns debate who's got the bigger earthquake cred, the pluses and minuses of Rick Perry, mourn Paul Ryan, ponder Steve Jobs' exit strategy, Meghan confesses an unrequited crush, and honor one special canine with hero status. Listen up!
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Sep '10
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Meghan confesses an unrequited crush
I'm horribly behind on podcasts, but it looks like I'll have to put this one on the top of the iPod shuffle.
No pressure.
Jul '10
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"Charleston is one of the few cities in America where you can were really wear your politics on your sleeves without worrying about polite company and all that...." or some such prattle.
That comment just screams "young" and/or inexperienced. If You haven't had a chance to get out more, don't make such generalizations.
I bet there are more Cities that replicate Charleston than just a "few."
Be careful, "Young Guns," don't shoot Yerself in the foot.
Oct '10
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Troy is a treasure, but sometimes one wishes for a conservative opinion from the others. Perhaps that's the danger of becoming a pundit so young...
Dec '10
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To my knowledge, this podcast marks the very first time I've heard the term "jurisprudence" in the same sentence as the phrase: "like, you know".
Meghan, please, take the advice of a happy, self-identified rube from flyover country. Get your young self to a Toastmaster's group - fast. They will break you of those annoying verbal ticks. Do it before you forget and write them into a speech for one of your clients.
It'll, I mean, make you sound so much more, you know, like a coastal intellectual.
Apr '11
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Which one was saying that she wanted a presidential candidate that was more like the CEO if a large corporation? Is this person not obviously Romney?
And I agree with Genferei above - Troy is great and as amusing as always on these podcasts & Law Talk, but the three young guns are little more than toy pistols at times.
Apr '11
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So, you want a new Culture Shock theme. Let me suggest a few songs:
20th Century Boy by T-Rex
Dream Police by Cheap Trick
Drivin' Wheel by Foghat
Fox on the Run by Sweet
Mar '11
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The sheer mention of Foghat warranted a like, and a chuckle. I don't think I've heard the name Foghat in years.
Mar '11
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"but sometimes one wishes for a conservative opinion from the others"
I'm not sure I understand this comment. Can you clarify which position they took which is unconservative?
Or is it the cultural aesthetic of the Ivy League vs. the Heartland that you mean?
May '10
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The verbal ticks don't bother me. "You know" and "well" and such are a part of common language. Eliminate them and they will just be replaced with "umm" or silence. Either way, they are effectively pauses in speech, which the vast majority of human beings on this earth rely upon because our thoughts do not flow as effortlessly as they do for individuals like Richard Epstein or James Lileks.
For Pete's sake, let's have genuine conversations! We are not crafting formal speeches here.
May '10
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Diane is right that Perry's "treason" comment was blown out of proportion. It was clear hyperbole. His choice of words underscore the seriousness of Bernanke's actions. They do not suggest Perry would truly string him up and leave him for the crows.
Your complaints about Perry are more about style than substance. Perry has a legislative track record, if you want to take issue with his stances on the issues.
Perry does play politics, but I do not believe his flamboyant "folksy" displays are political showboating. How many country music lyrics boil down to someone telling you how "country" he or she is? How many inner city rap songs are about proving "street cred"? How many people advertise their sports team pride at every opportunity, much to the annoyance of non-believers?
It's human nature to make a constant display of one's social pride. If y'all spent much time in Texas, I think you would realize just how unspectacular Perry's folksy displays are.
May '10
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Y'all keep talking like the role of a President is to propose specific legislation. We don't need a President who will be a legislative leader. We need a President who will be a legislative signer and public salesman.
I don't want to see a bunch of very specific plans from our candidates. I want see evidence of their convictions which suggests they would sign the right legislation if it was offered. And I want a President who can convince more Americans that it's time to tighten the belt, eliminate entire agencies and dethrone politicians.
Meghan says we need immediate and drastic changes. Why then pine for Paul Ryan? If memory serves, Ryan's plan proposes changes over a span of ten or twenty years. We're nearing the cliff, and Ryan wants to merely let off the accelerator.
Dec '10
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Culture Shock theme recommendation: Do You Really Want to Hurt Me, by Culture Club, of course. Or perhaps the Violent Femmes cover.
Edited on Aug 27, 2011 at 12:37pmDec '10
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Aaron Miller: The verbal ticks don't bother me. "You know" and "well" and such are a part of common language. Eliminate them and they will just be replaced with "umm" or silence. Either way, they are effectively pauses in speech, which the vast majority of human beings on this earth rely upon because our thoughts do not flow as effortlessly as they do for individuals like Richard Epstein or James Lileks.
For Pete's sake, let's have genuine conversations! We are not crafting formal speeches here. · Aug 27 at 8:25am
So, there isn't any middle ground between law professor and valley girl? We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
It's not a formal speech. It's called English.
Not too long back, there was a post on Ricochet that touched on this subject, asking if Brits were smarter than, like, you know, um, Americans. The obvious answer is "no". It's just that each of the particular British subjects mentioned in the thread had someone (or many someones) who cared enough to correct them anytime they displayed lousy speech habits .
May '11
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Might I suggest for the new culture shock theme song the electric guitar version of Pachelbel's canon?
May '10
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Jerry Broaddus: ...... .....Get your young self to a Toastmaster's group - fast. They will break you of those annoying verbal ticks. Do it before you forget and write them into a speech for one of your clients.
It'll, I mean, make you sound so much more, you know, like a coastal intellectual. · Aug 26 at 6:00pm
Of course, it helps if the critic spells the word (tic) correctly, showing that the term is actually, you know, understood. It's called English. 8-D
Reminds me of when '50's comic Dayton Allen was portraying a master criminologist, and was asked "What makes a criminal tick?" He replied that he had seen gangster cockroaches, but never a criminal tick. Or a verbal tick, I would guess.
May '10
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I will step in here to comment on The Greatest Controversy Of Our Time. There is a subtle reason that so many academics are Apple buffs. Lefties are Apple, Conservatives are Windows, Linux, Android, etc.
1) Apple is corporatism- centrally-controlled, tops down, you can't even download an mp3 podcast without the Apple software controls being attached. They tell you what hardware you must use, there is one source, it is more costly, and they even tell you what media software is acceptable (e.g., html5 on-line is OK, Flash video is not).
2) Non-Apple is free markets. Chaotic, messy, cheap, great variety, sometimes confusion and interactivity issues that steadily get better due to voluntary adoption of standards, freedom to hack and tinker. And non-stop condescension from the Apple crowd.
Myself, I love Asus and Sansa. I can do whatever I want with them, and they are capable, yet virtually disposable.
Gotcha, you iPod victims!
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I categorically reject this. Apple is a great American business. It produces fantastic products that consumers love, time and time again. The products --MacBooks, iPhones, iPads, iTunes, etc --are user friendly and intuitive and attractive. This is evidence that Apple knows how to compete in the free market better than most, and that makes them fundamentally conservative in my book.
May '10
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Duane Oyen: I will step in here to comment on The Greatest Controversy Of Our Time. There is a subtle reason that so many academics are Apple buffs. Lefties are Apple, Conservatives are Windows, Linux, Android, etc.
1) Apple is corporatism- centrally-controlled, tops down, you can't even download an mp3 podcast without the Apple software controls being attached. They tell you what hardware you must use, there is one source, it is more costly, and they even tell you what media software is acceptable (e.g., html5 on-line is OK, Flash video is not).
2) Non-Apple is free markets. Chaotic, messy, cheap, great variety, sometimes confusion and interactivity issues that steadily get better due to voluntary adoption of standards, freedom to hack and tinker. And non-stop condescension from the Apple crowd.
Myself, I love Asus and Sansa. I can do whatever I want with them, and they are capable, yet virtually disposable.
Gotcha, you iPod victims! · Aug 29 at 6:24pm
If a company is supposed to serve as an allegory for the market, then I guess you have a point. But if a company is supposed to maximize profit by meeting consumer demand....
May '10
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Apple is ObamaCare. Controlling and invasive.....
And the revolt is underway! Surfers of the world, unite. You have nothing to lose but your DMCA cookies.
(By the way, both of our- academia-compromised- kids are loaded with Apple gear all over. I'm the curmudgeonly hold-out, because I am an Old Crank)
Edited on Aug 30, 2011 at 5:46amDec '10
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Duane Oyen
Jerry Broaddus: ...........Get your young self to a Toastmaster's group - fast. They will break you of those annoying verbal ticks. Do it before you forget and write them into a speech for one of your clients.
It'll, I mean, make you sound so much more, you know, like a coastal intellectual. · Aug 26 at 6:00pm
Of course, it helps if the critic spells the word (tic) correctly, showing that the term is actually, you know, understood. It's called English. 8-D
Reminds me of when '50's comic Dayton Allen was portraying a master criminologist, and was asked "What makes a criminal tick?" He replied that he had seen gangster cockroaches, but never a criminal tick. Or a verbal tick, I would guess. · Aug 29 at 6:15pm
I'm so ashamed.
I withdraw all criticism. "Like, yeah, you know" to your heart's content with full knowledge that I substituted a more common homonym for the correct word.
Don't forget to encourage the use of those clever placeholders by your kids as well, 'cause, you know, like they need to fit in.
Edited on Sep 11, 2011 at 12:32pm