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I'm really hoping this is a hoax. Or insignificant. Or a plot to make the Muslim Brotherhood look great by comparison. Or anything but what it looks like.

A group of Egyptians have announced their intent to establish a Nazi party with "a contemporary frame of reference," an independent Egyptian news website said on Wednesday. ...

The party has a one-year plan to develop Egypt, unlike the "marginalized liberal parties, which are like dead bodies,” he said.

A source from the proposed party told Al-Badeel the idea to start it came after some fundamentalist religious waves emerged, which, according to the source, created a state of chaos and led to the burning of churches, the destruction of shrines and assaults on unarmed civilians.

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River
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River

I doubt that it's a hoax. The old Ottoman Empire allied itself with Germany in 1914. Naziism and radical Islam are compatible on many levels. Ethnic 'cleansing' and anti-semitism, racism, extreme authoritarianism, hypocritical puritanism, misogyny, personality cults, xenophobia, repression of the individual, and ritual worship of war.

The name Iran is a variation of Aryan, a leftover from the German-Persian alliance in WWII.

If they ever succeed in their aims, they'll immediately turn on each other and fight to the death, along with all the other Muslim sub-sects.

Lady Bertrum
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Lady Bertrum

   I'm really, really hoping these hateful idiots are just the excess bilge one can expect from a long repressed society finally let loose.  If they're not and represent wider sentiments then we need to prepare ourselves for an extend period of violence, instability, and possibly war.  What a magical mix, these idiots and the Muslim Brotherhood.  What a toxic brew.

Johannes Allert
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Johannes Allert

And former President G.W. Bush was criticized for using the term "Islamo-fascism"

....hmmm..

Johannes Allert
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Johannes Allert

Double post

Edited on May 25, 2011 at 7:26pm

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Jim Wilkins

The image was taken in Spain.  Here's the link. 

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/451117

The signs are in Spanish and the red an yellow banners are the color of the Spanish flag:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Spain

Still it's not a comforting image.

River
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River

The situation in Egypt must be dire. Their major industry before the Arab Spring was tourism, which has now collapsed almost entirely. They're on a one-way road to chaos.

David Williamson
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David Williamson

Gee, it's almost like history is repeating itself, or something.

David Williamson
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David Williamson

Jim Wilkins

The signs are in Spanish and the red an yellow banners are the color of the Spanish flag:

Gee, it's almost like this is some kinda International movement, or something.

Edited on May 25, 2011 at 7:41pm
Ajax Telamônios
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Ajax Telamônios

So they use the Kriegsmarine ensign?

Claire Berlinski, Ed.

Jim Wilkins: The image was taken in Spain.  Here's the link. 

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/451117

The signs are in Spanish and the red an yellow banners are the color of the Spanish flag:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Spain

Still it's not a comforting image. · May 25 at 10:27am

I'm not sure whether I should be relieved to learn it wasn't taken in Egypt or horrified to learn it was taken in Spain. Spain

JonWake
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Jonathan Wakefield

If a radical fundamentalist sect is to take over Egypt I would be glad to see it called the "Nazi" party. Then how would the left deny the radical views held by so many Muslims in Egypt and other middle eastern countries? It might just be a wake up call.

Ajax Telamônios
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Ajax Telamônios
Claire Berlinski, Ed.:  I'm not sure whether I should be relieved to learn it wasn't taken in Egypt or horrified to learn it was taken in Spain. Spain?  · May 25 at 10:54am

The Generalissimo, it appears, may not be entirely dead after all.

John Walker
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John Walker
River: The situation in Egypt must be dire. Their major industry before the Arab Spring was tourism, which has now collapsed almost entirely. They're on a one-way road to chaos. · May 25 at 10:28am

“Spengler” (David P. Goldman) in the Asia Times predicts that with the run-up in food prices and the collapse of tourist revenue and remittances from workers abroad (largely due to the chaos in Libya), Egypt will run out of money for food imports around September of this year.

And then…who knows?  I posted my own prognostication back in February, and the prospect of famine and food riots in Egypt only makes it seem more plausible to me.

Antiphon
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Antiphon

I was going to say, there is a bunch of Real Madrid flags and scarves in there (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_madrid). I guess this is the Spanish socialist's desperate to remain relevant.

Douglas
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Douglas

 Not a hoax. This is the country where you had guys marching with signs a few years ago that said "God bless Hitler and his unfinished work".


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Paul Stinchfield
John Walker  …the prospect of famine and food riots in Egypt.... · May 25 at 11:39am

And to think that Egypt and North Africa were the bread basket of the Roman Empire. It seems as if the region has still not recovered from the Muslim conquest.


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Paul Stinchfield

Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion remain perennial best sellers in the Middle East, including in Egypt.

Only a few years ago a dramatization of the Protocols, was broadcast every night of the month of Ramadan on Egyptian government TV.

The Syrian and Iraqi Ba'ath parties were modeled on the European fascist parties of the 1920's and 30's, particularly the fascist parties in Italy and Germany.

The Nazis were very popular in the region, and the notorious Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al Husseini, collaborated with the Nazis and ceaselessly urged them to do everything possible to completely exterminate the Jews. After the war he fled to Egypt where he was safe from extradition. I say notorious, but even today he seems to be revered in Egypt where his exterminationist ideology appears not to count against him.

CJRun
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CJRun

 It is, from Spain, via Iran, what it appears to be, but it is only that.  Adults in all places still have to be adults.

Tonight I have watched my eldest, as we talked about the status of the car we are working on, stand there and chop away at a fence post, with a machete.  I finally had to ask him to stop, despite all the years of attempting to inculcate values.

This is what youngsters do, especially male youngsters.  It never occured to the boy that the fence post he was choppng against had been installed by me, probably with his help.

Life and the future is not about fence posts, it's about being there for the next conversation, same person, even-keeled.

I would like to take the machete out of the eldest's hands and swipe off his feet, just below the ankles, sometimes.  However, I can't teach him the past, nor can I show him his future.  All I can do is keep working with him on the present and help him get his car running.

On such little things, in my opinion, the actions of young men waving Nazi flags depends.

TeamAmerica
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TeamAmerica

 Spanish unemployment is now running at 25%, the same as it was in the US at the depths of the Depression; it has been noted above that Egypt's tourism-dependent economy is now in trouble from the collapse of tourism. John Judis once wrote roughly that in a time of crisis, people look to the past for solutions. In America, the past is the Boston Tea Party and the Founding Fathers. In most countries, including Europe's, the past consisted of authoritarian gov'ts of one form or another. I fear that as the E.U.'s economies continue to fail, the resultant bad times will offer fertile ground for fascism. Mark Steyn was of course the first to predict this.

Edited on May 26, 2011 at 5:49am

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