Franco · July 13, 2012 at 2:33am

Jay Carney labels a journalists legitimate query, a "Donald Trump question".  Carney starts with a smear about the question, followed by an assertion with very careful word-choices, plenty of umms and ahhs, followed by a dismissal. There you have it, the Jay Carney Answer!

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Franco
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Franco

"When I sit back in my office and remember all the things that seemed to be the most important issue of the day and there were briefings after briefings where that was the most important issue of the day to the point where we had to, you know, solicit the long form of the President's birth certificate."

Funny, I remember them laughing about this, dismissing it, and using it as a political cudgel.

You know, I was at the DMV last week, and they were harassing me about my citizenship, where I was born and questioning my very humanity. It got to the point where I had to actually take the day off from work to present my birth certificate in person.

Natalie
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Natalie

...record of unprescedented levels of transparency...really?

Are they counting Wikileaks?  You know, whenever I see Jay Carney I get this urge to find a way to actually reach into the TV, grab him by the throat and slap the teeth out of his head.  Does anyone else have that?

Edited on July 12, 2012 at 11:38pm
Katie O
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Katie O

I shouldn't let this guy bother me so much...but man! I don't know if I'm more upset by Carney or the journalists that let him get away with it!

Franco
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Franco
Natalie: ...record of unprescedented levels of transparency...really?

We are officially in Baghdad Bob territory with that one!

Natalie
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Natalie

Franco

Natalie: ...record of unprescedented levels of transparency...really?

We are officially in Baghdad Bobterritory with that one! · 3 minutes ago

LOL!  What ever happend to that guy?  I was just thinking about him yesterday.


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Scarlet Pimpernel

College transcripts are a bit much. But what about his health records?  Hasn't he, like President Clinton, failed to make them public?

Percival
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Percival

I used to just want to see Obama's transcripts.  Now I want to see Carney's too.

Natalie: ...record of unprescedented levels of transparency...really?

Are they counting Wikileaks?  You know, whenever I see Jay Carney I get this urge to find a way to actually reach into the TV, grab him by the throat and slap the teeth out of his head.  Does anyone else have that? · 1 hour ago

Edited 1 hour ago

Only when his lips are moving.

Clandesteyn
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Clandesteyn

Whenever I hear him speak, I think of the description in Atlas Shrugged of James Taggart's style of speech.  It's as though his goal is to mimic the act making an argument without giving up anything that could peg him to a coherent point.  And because being such a tedious hack must wear on his soul, he tries to cram as many platitudinous phrases into the answer as he can, as a game to see if he can beat his own record from his previous answers.
Here's my count:
-unprecedented levels of transparency ... is well established
-reflects a long tradition of being an open book
-part of the process
-well-established tradition in our country
-he not only practices it but believes that it's the right thing
-the president's record on transparency is extremely sound
-he believes it's the right thing to do (2)

Had he wanted to answer the question, he would have said: "No he can't do anything to be more transparent."

Edited on July 13, 2012 at 1:34am
Franco
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Franco

Clandesteyn:  It's as though his goal is to mimic the act making an argument without giving up anything that could peg him to a coherent point.  And because being such a tedious hack must wear on his soul, he tries to cram as many platitudinous phrases into the answer as he can, as a game to see if he can beat his own record from his previous answers.
Here's my count:
-unprecedented levels of transparency ... is well established
-reflects a long tradition of being an open book
-part of the process
-well-established tradition in our country
-he not only practices it but believes that it's the right thing
-the president's record on transparency is extremely sound
-he believes it's the right thing to do (2)

Had he wanted to answer the question, he would have said: "No he can't do anything to be more transparent." 

Great, informative observations, thanks!

Mothership_Greg
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Mothership_Greg

Isn't the correct phrase du jour "clown question, bro"?  Funny thing is, you can't even speculate to Obama voters about stuff like his college records.  I was noting some of Rev. Wright's recent words about "white racist DNA" and "milky white way of life" to a friend of mine, who I know voted for Obama in 2008.  I wasn't attempting to tie them in any way to Obama - mostly I just thought they were amusing, in the way that it's amusing when Pat Robertson says crazy things.  The reaction?  Outrage that anyone would be paying attention to anything our current President's former pastor of twenty years might be saying, because "he's that guy they tried to use to prove Obama hates America."  Uhh, yeah, ok, back to my milky white way of life now.

tabula rasa
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tabula rasa

Has Carney ever actually answered a question? I thought Robert Gibbs was the worst, and then Carney comes along and makes the guy look like a picture window of transparency.

Edited on July 13, 2012 at 3:13am
Brian Watt
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Scarlet Pimpernel: College transcripts are a bit much. But what about his health records?  Hasn't he, like President Clinton, failed to make them public? · 2 hours ago

Pardon me...but why exactly are college transcripts "a bit much"? Some businesses actually ask for them when applying for a job. The job of the President of the United States is the most important job in the world...isn't it?


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lisa smillie

Yes, the president is an open book, but it's a blank book.

James Gawron
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James Gawron

Franco,

Why I'm surprised at you.  Did you really think that Jay Carney was anything but the trivial boot licking little twerp that he appears to be?

Come now.  Once a mindless sychophantic rationalizing dweeb always a.....well you get the picture.

Regards,

Jim

kac54
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kac54

Congrats, Franco.  You made it to the main feed!!

billy
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billy

Don't you just love the Orwellian  flavor  of this administration?

Dietlbomb
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Dietlbomb

Q: Can the president do more to show leadership on being transparent, with regard to documents, records, his own PAC background?

WH answer: That's a stupid question, you redneck moron.

Real answer: Of course, but we're not telling because you won't make us.

WH answer: The president's record of unprecedented level of transparency in the White House is well established.

Real answer: There are 5 lights. Tell me I'm wrong. I dare you.

Q: One thing that people, at least among his opponents, continue to bring up is his college records?

WH answer: This is the Donald Trump question. I think he's the one who brings it up the most. It is preposterous. Like, you know? This is the guy who insisted that he didn't believe the president was born in the United States.

Real answer: Ha ha. We all know the president is a moron. But we also know you aren't going to report it, you idiot racist.

Anthony Daniels said it best:

...the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.

Clandesteyn
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Clandesteyn

I think we're all being a little hard on Carney (and I include myself).  Can you imagine how he must feel after he gets off the podium?  On the drive back home?  When he lays his head on the pillow at night?

What did I do today?  I dissembled, I misled, I demonized... and I put my lapdog pals in the press pool in the same position when they go file their embarrassingly incurious reports.

On a related note, I often wonder how the "vanguards of the revolution" around the world feel at the end of the day after they've dutifully "disappeared" someone from textbooks, rerouted desperately needed food to their black-market connections, or lined a couple dozen "counter-revolutionaries" up against the bloody wall for some social justice.

Surely they must suffer as much in their hearts as their victims suffer from their actions, right?  Carney isn't executing kulaks but his job is to do evil.  I wonder how well he sleeps at night...

Edited on July 13, 2012 at 4:56am
Clandesteyn
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Clandesteyn
Carney isn't executing kulaks

Apologies to the families of the victims of Fast and Furious and those foreign intelligence sources compromised by the WH's leaks.

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin
tabula rasa: Has Carney ever actually answered a question? I thought Robert Gibbs was the worst, and then Carney comes along and makes the guy look like a picture window of transparency. ·

Same thing. Gibbs was so horrible right out of the gate, that I predicted Obama would let him go by the end of March 2009. And he stayed on, and on, and on, and on. And when he finally stepped down along comes Carney, who just comes out and practically begs to be punched.

Edited on July 13, 2012 at 5:26am

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