The Conservative case for banning bad fashion
Claire Berlinski ·
Jul 9, 2010 at 11:04pm
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Jun '10
Re: The Conservative case for banning bad fashion
In Western countries, if you're a high-priority fugitive, male or female, and can find a neighborhood where the burka is commonly worn, it's a great way to eliminate the fear of being arrested when you go to the neighborhood supermarket. Wear your burka, use cash, and don't talk. If you're a man, you could even get the fake eyelashes. You just can't talk. For that reason, I think it's perfectly reasonable to prohibit face covering. Why should people be able to walk into a bank, for example, with their face covered? If you can't tolerate having your face exposed, you're living in the wrong country, and probably the wrong century.
May '10
Re: The Conservative case for banning bad fashion
I agree both with the war on women argument and the security one. We need to stop this crazy fashion on both counts.
May '10
Re: The Conservative case for banning bad fashion
It's fun working a cash register at Kroger and ringing up customers covered head-to-toe. Double bonus if they use a WIC card, which they often did at the store I worked near Ohio State's campus! I quit after 6 weeks so I never got to experience the conundrum of a veiled customer trying to buy alcohol, heh.
Full covering in public should not be accepted - and while I'm deciding what's inappropriate in public, think we could ban those thin spandex pants? On some women they're horribly distracting, and on others they're just... horrible.
Jul '10
Re: The Conservative case for banning bad fashion
I must disagree. I've been watching for the last few years European governments and electorates steadily instituting regulation after regulation targeted at how Muslims choose to practice their religion in a non-harmful way. From banning headscarves (not just head-to-toe [or as they say in Pakistan "shuttlecock"] burqas) in French schools to banning minarets (?) in Switzerland, to Fitna director Geert Wilder's party significantly increasing their numbers in the latest Dutch elections, it is apparent that Europe's attempts at societal integration have utterly failed.
The point is that the US is the best country in the world for Muslims to live in, not because our government is openly supportive or active in integrating Muslims, but because Americans do not want the government butting into their lives and telling them how they may or may not practice their religion, especially if that way is not harmful to others. It is outside of the purview of government to tell its people that because it spooks some of us, they're not allowed to practice their religion in the manner of their choosing.
Jul '10
Re: The Conservative case for banning bad fashion
For the record, shuttlecock burqas spook the hell out of me too, and I'm Muslim. But outside that extreme example, I know plenty of Muslim women who wear headscarves and draw them over their mouths as well not because their husbands would beat them if they didn't, but for fear of being talked about behind their back if they're caught in public by some holier than thou lady from the mosque. Is combating backbiting really worth the government's time and effort?
Re: The Conservative case for banning bad fashion
I agree, Humza. From my travels in secular Muslim countries -- like Egypt and Azerbaijan -- I've talked to Muslim women for whom the headscarf is really just a way of conforming to social norms. Sort of like Victorian corsets, maybe. They don't think of it as an expression of religious devotion.
Let's hope they're right.