Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
This video is now making the rounds in Turkey.
Those crazy Turkish conspiracy theorists! They'll believe anything!
Oh, but wait: All they added were the subtitles. Americans came up with that one. Thanks for that, my fellow lunatic Americans. That really helps people in seismically active zones better to understand and prepare for these events.
Turkish friends: Please understand that in America we have a big problem with really insane people. We wish we could just sedate them with Thorazine and stuff them in a closet, but we can't, because of our Constitution.
Here's some information about HAARP. As you can see from this image, Turkey has been prone to earthquakes for a good deal longer than HAARP's been around.
Here are real maps of seismic activity in the region from the past thirty days. There's no "grid pattern," as you can see.
I apologize for any confusion my insane fellow Americans may have caused.
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Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
Oh my. "They are targeting Turkey with seismic attacks. It doesn't matter who they are -- they have to be stopped."
Give these buffoons some credit...at least they didn't implicate the Zionist Jews!
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
Diane, you're reading it wrong, it says "semetic attacks."
Apr '11
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
Aye-yah ...
It's one thing when the American Loons just posit about conspiracy theory in America, it's another thing entirely when they can export crazy.
And here I was laughing when Chavez accused America of using a secret Earthquake Weapon. I guess he gets his crackpot theories honestly.
May '10
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
I have an acquaintance--an engineer who works in the defense industry--who believes this stuff about HAARP and earthquakes. My interactions with this guy deepen my belief in Thomas Sowell's Constrained Vision.
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
You're scaring me. He's not building anything we need to count on, is he?
Oct '10
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
Does anyone recall the Hollow Earth theory ? Add that to the list. Gee, lets throw in a few aliens for good measure.
Apr '11
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
Claire Berlinski, Ed.
You're scaring me. He's not building anything we need to count on, is he? · Oct 27 at 5:29pm
An engineer friend tells me that some of the engineers for truth (probably the most visible truther campaign in the UK) includes some really good engineers. Not all crazy people are incompetent or innumerate.
Diane Ellis, Ed.: Oh my. "They are targeting Turkey with seismic attacks. It doesn't matter who they are -- they have to be stopped."
Give these buffoons some credit...at least they didn't implicate the Zionist Jews! · Oct 27 at 4:32pm
This is true, but I think it should be clear to most people who see the truth in this claim that the Zionist Jews who control America would be behind any US attack on Islam. Them, or maybe the Freemasons. Or the Koch bros., furious at Turkish resistance to FOX lies.
Mar '11
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
I am an aficionado of conspiracy theories. The ingenuity of the truly gifted lunatics that concoct this stuff is breathtaking. Any fact or near-fact that crosses their paths that can lend any credibility to their narrative is swept up and incorporated into the weave as if it had always been there. Inconvenient facts are dismissed, or better yet are twisted back as evidence of the massive coverup that is being conducted to keep you poor sheeple in the dark as to Their Evil Plan!
The folks that get involved in this stuff are trying to bring sense and order to reality, to assuage their feelings of powerlessness. Once upon a time, they would have no greater audience than the audience they could reach from the top of a soapbox in Bughouse Square. With the Internet, there's a whole world of fellow cranks who need to hear the word.
One can't refute them, one can only ignore them.
Or grade them! And this effort rates no higher than a C-. I'm sorry, but there is no mention of Halliburton, or the Federal Reserve, or Rupert Murdoch, or the Knights Templar.
Jun '10
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
That isn't even a very clever conspiracy theory. It's just people looking at data and not understanding what they're seeing. (The "grid" they think they see is just the resolution of whatever seismic data they're looking at.)
Gotta give 'em bonus points for then immediately concluding that it's a deliberate attack and that it's a test trial of some New World Order conspiracy, though. Whoo, nelly.
May '10
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
Claire Berlinski, Ed.
You're scaring me. He's not building anything we need to count on, is he? · Oct 27 at 5:29pm
He is a capable engineer, and in fact quite an astute observer of financial and political news. I consider it not an intellectual disorder but an emotional one.
My estimation of him is that he just has a strange desire for such theories to be true--one can't be a conspiracy subscriber without such. It allows--drives--one to build elaborate constructions on the slimmest of evidence, fill in gaps and even contradict seemingly obvious truths with imagination.
Possibly it's the dark side of irrational optimism and wishful thinking.
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
I think you're right about that. But if indeed he's building something critical to national security, I'm not consoled by the idea that he's merely suffering from an emotional disorder. Just as I wouldn't be by the words, "Don't worry, your neurosurgeon isn't clumsy, he's just drunk."
Dec '10
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
Clair, you now know how Obama got elected. Judgement is a very precious commodity. Some just don't have any at all. A politician who is willing to stoop to inflaming these people is the lowest form of political life. It is exactly this type of paranoia that fuels Obama. Only Abe Lincoln's dictum can give us hope. "You can fool some of the People all of the time, you can fool all of the People some of the time, but you can't fool all of the People all of the time. Obama's charade is wearing thin. We must keep up the attack.
Sep '11
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
Percival,
I too have delighted in conspiracy theory for many years. I've thought it would be fun--perhaps on April Fools' Day--to briefly suspend the CofC and hold a one-day, members-only contest for the Most Outlandish Conspiracy Theory. One that would observe all the rules of the art form, of course--in the same way that you lose points for breaking hold in the tango, for instance. So you'd have to include Halliburton, Brown & Root, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (and why did they add "and Explosives" after the Oklahoma City bombing? Hmm?)
Jun '10
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
Some people can't write a whole sci-fi movie script, so instead they maybe improvise four minutes of dialog for one. What's the fuss about? Who's going to take this seriously?
May '10
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
I only wish we had the power to place earthquakes against our enemies, we could wipe out the nuclear facilities of Iran, North Korea, Pakistan etc with these super powers.
The "grid system" alluded to, is likely to be related to the detectors, the concentrated presence of fault lines (yes Virginia they can run in straight lines) and computer presentation of data on a GIS.
Either that, or SPECTRE has returned from hibernation after the end of the Cold War, and the film You Only Live Twice was actual documentary footage (and pass the bong please...)
Love the commentary of the women in the video "I wanted to check I was not delusional"...
Mar '11
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
John Murdoch: Percival,
I too have delighted in conspiracy theory for many years. I've thought it would be fun--perhaps on April Fools' Day--to briefly suspend the CofC and hold a one-day, members-only contest for the Most Outlandish Conspiracy Theory. One that would observe all the rules of the art form, of course--in the same way that you lose points for breaking hold in the tango, for instance. So you'd have to include Halliburton, Brown & Root, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (and why did they add "and Explosives" after the Oklahoma City bombing? Hmm?) · Oct 27 at 8:41pm
I saw the point of that CoC restriction, and thought it prudent. It's tough to tell when one's tongue is in one's cheek on the Internet, you don't want to attract the crazies (or in my case, the other crazies), and there's Mr. Robinson's membership on the Trilateral Commission and Mr. Long's status as a 33rd degree Mason to consider...
You don't want to cross these people. You really, really don't.
Nov '10
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
Mark Wilson
Claire Berlinski, Ed.
You're scaring me. He's not building anything we need to count on, is he?
He is a capable engineer, and in fact quite an astute observer of financial and political news. I consider it not an intellectual disorder but an emotional one.
My estimation of him is that he just has a strange desire for such theories to be true--one can't be a conspiracy subscriber without such. It allows--drives--one to build elaborate constructions on the slimmest of evidence, fill in gaps and even contradict seemingly obvious truths with imagination.
Possibly it's the dark side of irrational optimism and wishful thinking.
People are always seeking some explanation of the world around them. These people have thrown out traditional theology, and so they make up nonsense. As GK Chesterton said, "When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing — they believe in anything."
Jun '10
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
If the grid reflects anything true it must be that the measured seismic level is portioned into grids for the purpose of identifying the sub-region involved. Surely the first question must be:
"Is the red dot the center point of lat./long rectangular grid (set up by the country's scientists) near the activity (or reflecting the sum of all activity in that grid) or is it the actual point of a separate seismic event?"
Now, why couldn't they do that level of research before going with this? Even asking the question obviates the insanity we are looking at here.
(Claire, I know you are implying the above with your graphic -- I just wanted to express it clearly. Am I in charge of the "bleedin' obvious"? If so, sorry to be pedantic or didactic.)
May '10
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
Lucy Pevensie
People are always seeking some explanation of the world around them. These people have thrown out traditional theology, and so they make up nonsense. As GK Chesterton said, "When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing — they believe in anything." · Oct 28 at 7:15am
Actually, the first 9/11 Truther I ever met was a devout Christian, and his religious beliefs were an integral part of his conspiracy theories.
Nov '10
Re: Thanks For the Conspiracy Theory, American Loons
John Murdoch:
I've thought it would be fun--perhaps on April Fools' Day--to briefly suspend the CofC and hold a one-day, members-only contest for the Most Outlandish Conspiracy Theory. One that would observe all the rules of the art form, of course--in the same way that you lose points for breaking hold in the tango, for instance. So you'd have to include Halliburton, Brown & Root, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (and why did they add "and Explosives" after the Oklahoma City bombing? Hmm?)
Even better: hold the contest (unannounced on the Main Feed) for the last bit of March (maybe up to a week). The winners will know they won when they see their posts on the Main Feed on the First.