Take a Wrecking Ball to Washington
The King Prawn ·
Nov 4, 2011 at 6:04am
Perry on Hannity. Is it too late for him to get his message out? Is it even a message Republicans want to hear? I keep asking myself why he has to be so good on substance and so bad on style.
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May '10
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I must say, I like what he says. But did he just call for lots more training of predator drone pilots?
Or am I crazy?
Dec '10
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He wants to use unmanned aviation vehicles like the predators to provide real time surveillance data to the boots on the ground. It's actually a good strategy. I think his border security plan is much more realistic and comprehensive than other plans. Strategic fencing, aerial surveillance, and manpower make for a pretty solid defense for our border.
Dec '10
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Very strong interview.
Highlights for me: 1) Perry's comments regarding the need to get the State Department on the same page as the president. I've been reading about the Bush years and how so many problems were exacerbated by State, Defense, and the Oval Office not pursuing the same policies. 2) Perry is seeking advice from some good people (Forbes, Bolton, Liz Cheney) and is willing to name them. This says a lot about what he's thinking and the policies he'll pursue.
Lowlight for me: Perry needs to drop the Romney immigration issue entirely. It's a non-issue and makes Perry look small, desperate, and non-presidential. He's not laying a glove on Romney with this, but is damaging himself severely.
May '10
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Yes, but didn't he specially call for more pilots for those drones?
It's not a deal breaker for me, but it's very funny, don't you think?
I wish he didn't sound so very much like W.
But I much prefer his manner of coming out swinging to Romney's extreme caution.
Apr '11
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Katievs, I think that the people who operate the drones are called pilots.
Do you think that if the US had launched military action against Iran in support of the Green Revolution, that would have stabilized Egypt and Libya? I think that's less whacky than his claim that you'd have a postcard tax return, but it's still pretty far out. I'm in favor of military action against Iran, and was in '09, but short term stabilization of the region would not be one of the benefits. Since those were his only two specifics, other than the immigration stuff, I can't say I'm digging the substance, other than the possible gutting of State (I'm not sure he means that, though).
Endlessly repeating your enthusiasm for jobs is style, not substance.
May '10
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O, okay. I didn't know that.
Dec '10
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It's also known as framing the debate. I really just hope that we have a contest of ideas rather than personalities. So far we have not.
Dec '10
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KP: As you often note, Perry is much stronger in this format than in debates, where the rapid-fire, game show atmosphere seems to flummox him. But I've also noticed that he's much more impressive, even in interviews, when there is no audience present. I'm thinking of the recent interview you linked to where Perry was in front of an audience in Iowa (?). Perry was much better there than in any of his debates, but I was still fairly underwhelmed. Here with Hannity, however, and in the interview with WMUR that you posted some time back -- neither of which was in front of an audience -- Perry was indeed "thoroughly impressive" (to borrow Peter's phrase).
I've only seen a handful of interviews, so my sample size is small. Having seen more of Perry than I have, can you comment on whether there is anything to my little theory?
Dec '10
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Freeven, it may be that he's finding his stride. I think the speech you're referring to was the New Hampshire "drunk speech." He was almost an entirely different person in that one. Either he is just getting more comfortable with campaigning on a national level, or he's figured out that he blew this thing and is just going to enjoy the ride until he has to bow out. On his youtube channel there a several interviews.
Update: I just watched his speech at the Faith and Freedom Coalition and it was impressive in both substance and style.
Edited on Nov 3, 2011 at 8:34pmDec '10
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No, I'm talking specifically about interviews.
I was referring to Perry's interview at the National Association of Manufactures in Iowa. This was in front of an audience and Perry was adequate, but far from stellar.
He was quite good however in the Hannity interview you posted above and in his interview with WMUR, neither of which were in front of an audience.
My thought is that he gets into trouble when he plays to an audience. If you watch the first interview, you see him looking often to the audience, as if for approval. He seems to get distracted, perhaps fishing for applause lines instead fleshing out thoughtful answers. In the one-on-one interviews, he's much more focused, more thoughtful and detailed in his responses.
I'm positing that this tendency to play to the audience may have as much to do with his poor "debate" performances as the pressure of the format.
Dec '10
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I hadn't really noticed that. Good catch. Perhaps a bit of stage fright? It's not very useful, but it is a little charming for such a macho guy to be afraid of a crowd.
Sep '10
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Didn't Dan Quayle suffer the same problem? The stories I heard was extremely impressive in groups of five or less and deer caught in the headlights above that size.
May '10
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A rather serious flaw in a candidate for President, isn't it?
I'm not ruling him out yet though. He may surprise.
Oct '11
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I'm not for Romney, period! I just wanted to say that before I pick apart all the establishment Repubicans! If you guys believe that Romney is the answer to the GOP, than you might as well become a Lib.
Perry may not be a scripted Ken doll, but he has a hell of a lot more conviction, and a track record, to prove it. What does Romney have? He has the Left, Karl Rove and the establishment Repubicans. Wake up people! Perry has inconsistencies at best. Romney has a completely LIBERAL record.
If he is the nominee, I will vote for him, but if certain people have already made up their minds, without properly vetting him, they are helping to destroy the Republican Party, and might as well be a Lib!
Apr '11
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The King Prawn
It's also known as framing the debate. I really just hope that we have a contest of ideas rather than personalities. So far we have not. · Nov 3 at 8:07pm
I'm not knocking style! It can be super important, both in becoming POTUS and in governing once you're there. Just wanted to note that it was the style which was good here.
Apr '11
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Rick Blaskovich:
Perry may not be a scripted Ken doll, but he has a hell of a lot more conviction, and a track record, to prove it. What does Romney have? He has the Left, Karl Rove and the establishment Repubicans. Wake up people! Perry has inconsistencies at best. Romney has a completely LIBERAL record.
If he is the nominee, I will vote for him, but if certain people have already made up their minds, without properly vetting him, they are helping to destroy the Republican Party, and might as well be a Lib! · Nov 3 at 10:19pm
While, obviously, the deficit cutting, deregulating, bureaucrat downsizing, and law and order policies of Mitt's governorship being liberal or not is a subjective thing, the claim that he's not endorsed by serious and informed conservatives is objectively silly. Wiki has quite a good database. In 2008, was Jim DeMint a liberal?
The suggestion that Romney has not been vetted is even odder. There is more easily accessible information on him than on any non-incumbent primary candidate in history, with two internet era-POTUS runs and 3 high profile jobs before that.
Dec '10
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I'm not reading it as stage fright. Insecurity? Egotism? I'm not sure. I just get the feeling that he focuses too much on the audience and gets distracted. Of course I could be way off base about the whole thing.
In any case, kudos on continuing to advocate so strongly for your guy. I've taken a serious second look at him and he's growing on me with these interviews. I said before that I think we'll see him turn in a decent debate performance before all is said and done. I still think so, and hope it's sooner rather than later.
Sep '10
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This professional politician who voted for Carter, worked for Gore and promised he would not run for president while running the last time for governor is going to take a wrecking ball to Washington? Give me a break! Perry is a chameleon who will do or say what he thinks is beneficial for him? He is somewhere between a LBJ and a Bush! Most of what has been done in Texas has been done by the people of Texas, despite Perry not because of him. The governorship in Texas is a relatively weak office which has served the state well.
May '10
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Perry's best hope is to IGNORE all the other Republicans. Focus on Obama...and don't let go. Don't be baited. Just keep after Obama...don't be the "not Romney"; be the "reverse Obama."
Edited on Nov 4, 2011 at 6:17amMar '11
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I think Cain may be in real trouble. And the "not-Romney" vote has to go somewhere. If it goes mostly to one candidate, that person will be the next POTUS. If it is split, Romney wins.
So Perry has a shot, with Cain's issues dominating. But I don't think anyone besides those 3 has a chance of being nominated unless we somehow end up with a brokered convention and Daniels or Ryan are drafted.