Sometimes Hollywood Gets It Right
Tommy De Seno ·
January 19, 2013 at 3:46pm
We are all familiar with the abundance of warped values Hollywood and other American arts pump into the human noosphere on the topics of politics and religion.
Sometimes though, if you look for it, you can find a bit of real gold hidden amoungst the leftist pyrite. One of my favorite examples is the "Republic" speech by John Wayne, playing Davy Crockett in the movie The Alamo.
Are there other examples you can find and share of Hollywood getting it right?
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Dec '12
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That scene was filmed over 50 years ago. Wayne was an outlier in Hollywood even then. Today he would be blacklisted.
Mark
Nov '10
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Mark is right. There must be lots of examples of Hollywood getting it right. It’s just that they are all over 50 years ago. Mister Smith went to Washington to fix a problem. Now Mr. Jones goes to Washington to get laid.
May '10
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To further the "fifty years ago" point, Linus's speech in A Charlie Brown Christmas is as good as it gets.
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Great example!
May '10
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Can't point to a particular speech necessarily, but A&E's production of Pride and Prejudice is the single best recent combo of good, wholesome values and entertainment. It has none of the psuedo "sucking face" passion of other modern versions yet is funny and clever.
As a family we must've watched that DVD fifty times over the years -- since our kids were very young and often as just background noise -- and, seriously, I really think it's been an effective under-the-radar way to hardwire wholesome values into our kids.
Nov '10
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This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AAJuynxnTQ
May '11
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Jack Webb
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Scott Reusser: Can't point to a particular speech necessarily, but A&E's production of Pride and Prejudice is the single best recent combo of good, wholesome values and entertainment. It has none of the psuedo "sucking face" passion of other modern versions yet is funny and clever.
As a family we must've watched that DVD fifty times over the years -- since our kids were very young and often as just background noise -- and, seriously, I really think it's been an effective under-the-radar way to hardwire wholesome values into our kids. · 45 minutes ago
Never seen it but I will now.
Edited on January 19, 2013 at 5:11pmRe: Sometimes Hollywood Gets It Right
Ken Owsley: This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AAJuynxnTQ · 26 minutes ago
Never saw that before. It's fantastic! Forgiveness is such a forgotten virtue.
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I've seen that one and had forgotten it. I won't forget it again! I may show it to my college aged kids/relatives.
May '10
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"Don't try to make a new country. Try to make the old one work better."
Nice.
May '10
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Ken Owsley: This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AAJuynxnTQ · 52 minutes ago
Wow that was good.
May '10
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Any John Wayne movie will do. From McLintock:
You can't beat reality. And politicians have no idea what it looks like.
Jan '11
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Nothing new about it. People have been referring to Shakespeare, or even the Bible, for centuries. This is part of what culture does for you ... it gives you pre-packaged, readily understandable stories that carry ideas, and those ideas come in handy during everyday life.
Hollywood stinks at some things, but when they use that skill for a good purpose, you see how useful it is to the culture.
I frequently use well-known speeches or even phrases to communicate some point. Sometimes, all I have to do is start with a few words, and people who've seen that movie can instantly spot the point:
But as for speeches, Hollywood doesn't like soliloquies anymore, which is kind of a shame. Shakespeare made a living off them. The Hollywood ones I like the most are
Jul '12
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George C Scott in the opening speech of Patton
Oct '10
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[Hobby shop proprietor violates CoC]
"Excuse me, sir, but I'd really appreciate it if you wouldn't take the Lord's name in vain again."
"You got a problem with that, partner?"
"Yes. I have a big problem with that."
— Adam Weber, played to perfection by Brendan Fraser in Blast From the Past
"Mom and Dad's lives could be in jeopardy! Or worse...their marriage!"
— Violet Parr, voiced by Sarah Vowell in The Incredibles
"If you so much as set foot downtown, you will be sorry. I'm in a prayer group with the D.A., I'm a member of the NRA and I'm always packing."
— Leigh Anne Touhy, played by Sandra Bullock in The Blind Side
Apr '11
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It's not Hollywood, but Medal of Honor is probably the most patriotic war visual narrative I've seen. It's a true story that should be more widely known, the Americans are heroic and awesome, the enemies terrible human beings, and a 2 against 30 fight is unfair to the 30. It's gripping, noble, and brought tears to my eyes. Plus, it's kind of fun. Sadly, the sequal was fictional. If you don't play video games, buy a copy for your kid, or for a kid you can borrow, and you can watch the story without the hassle of playing yourself. Support patriotism to encourage more of it.
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Interesting! I didn't know any of the war games were based upon true stories. My boys have so many if they don't have this one I'll get if for them and let them know the background. Thanks for the tip.
Edited on January 20, 2013 at 4:52amApr '11
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Tommy De Seno
Interesting! I didn't know any of the war games were based upon true stories.
I think that some of the WWII shooters are, too, but MoH is the only positive account of modern military heroism I know of that doesn't either require you to open/ listen to a book or feature Bin Laden (which is sort of different).
Nothing against WWII, but seeing Americans doing good things today means that your boys would have something to attach to their thanking the troops when they do. If they thank a WWII vet for his service, they'll already have a ton of positive associations. It doesn't go into the high level stuff, so whether you're "I don't support the war, but I do support the troops" or a supporter of both, you'll find a positive lesson there and no harm. Unfortunately, it got a bad rep in parts of the right blogosphere as the multiplayer game lets you play both sides, which some find offensive, but the player v player game in this instance was kind of an afterthought anyway.
Mar '11
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Hate to be the wet blanket here (honestly), especially as I love John Wayne movies and just about everything they stand for, and I'm very sympathetic to the subject of the thread. But Wayne's character is 100 percent wrong on this. "Republic", in and of itself stands for none of things he mentioned. A Republic is simply a non-royal form of government. France is a republic. The Soviet Union was a republic. China is a republic. Fascist Italy was, for a time, a republic. Republican governments alone ensure none of the virtues he mentioned. There are several royal countries with better freedom and property rights than many republics.