Kevin Eder (@keder) · October 21, 2011 at 3:49pm

I spent some time last night reading about how our detestable hack of a Vice President is going around the country lying about what will or won't happen if we fail to pass their 'jobs bill,' and it got me thinking: leftists have an absolutely bizarre relationship with the police. One day, they're whining and moaning about 'police brutality' at the 'occupy' events and defecating on police cars, and the very next day they're saying 'fork more money over to public sector unions (including police) or we're all going to get raped!' It's a real head-scratcher.

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raycon and lindacon
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raycon

Forget thinking about the left as having a position on almost any issue except power.  All the rest is tactical.  Whatever works!

Mel Foil
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etoiledunord

I think Biden is trying to salvage his spot on the 2012 ticket. And the way he's doing it is, demonstrating that nobody is willing to go lower than he is. "Whose a bigger whore? Nobody!"

Well, he sold me.

Paul A. Rahe

etoiledunord: I think Biden is trying to salvage his spot on the 2012 ticket. And the way he's doing it is, demonstrating that nobody is willing to go lower than he is. "Whose a bigger whore? Nobody!"

Well, he sold me. · Oct 21 at 7:02am

Me, too.

~Paules
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~Paules

 Joe Biden needs to learn that the rest of America doesn't love him as much as he loves himself. 

The Great Adventure!
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The Great Adventure!
~Paules:  Joe Biden needs to learn that the rest of America doesn't love him as much as he loves himself.  · Oct 21 at 7:27am

That would be assuming that Joe is capable of learning. 


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Jager

My thought is the the inclusion of the police and fire allows them to make a public safety excuse to pass a bill that funds teacher Unions. Notice that the Police and Fire get a much smaller share of the money but a larger share of the talking points.

In my area at least, the police union is much more non partisan. They actually support Republicans more than Democrats. 

Stuart Creque
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Stuart Creque

Jager has it right. Biden's talk about public safety is a smokescreen. Dems favor more cops because that means more dues for the police unions and thus more contributions to the Dems' campaigns. That doesn't mean they want the cops to enforce the law, just to draw pay checks from which dues can be deducted.

wilber forge
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wilber forge

The reality is that the police respond to crimes in large part after they have taken place. Little to do with crime prevention as it were.

The statements made by Biden are well removed form reality, nothing new there. 

Even if there were additional police, fighting crime is akin to squeezing a balloon.

C. U. Douglas
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C. U. Douglas

In general there is a big disconnect between unions and police officers.  One of my friends up north will tell me frequently that the majority of the officers he works with are very conservative -- race, creed, gender, or sexual preference.  Union leadership in general, not just with public safety, frequently has this disconnect.

Of course, note also that Biden's appeal seems more addressed not to the officers, but to the public in general.  There's recognition that we see our police officers as a safeguard against crime, but less sympathy for the actual officers.

Also noted is that Biden won't allow more firearms in the hands of public citizens, another reliable crime deterrent.  So remember, if you're being attacked by a criminal, it's the Republicans fault for not paying for police officers.

wilber forge
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wilber forge

 RE. C U Douglas

Also noted is that Biden won't allow more firearms in the hands of public citizens, another reliable crime deterrent.  So remember, if you're being attacked by a criminal, it's the Republicans fault for not paying for police officers.

If there are housing subsidies and food stamps, how about government funded ammo chits for the public ? Tax rebates on sidearm purchases ?

OK, Went off the rails there, makes about as much sense as anything else these days.

KCRob
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KCRob

No stimulus XXII and we all take to rape and pillage? Sheriff Joe doesn't think much of his subjects, does he?

Chris Campion
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Chris Campion

Biden manages to evade entirely the larger point, in that states have the same troubles the federal government has, but can't print their own money - they tend to spend more than they take in.  All another stimulus does is allow politicians to make un-painful (or less painful) choices.  Biden knows that the last thing municipalities will cease to fund are their core reasons for being - local law enforcement, firefighting, street maintenance, etc.  Everything else is literally beyond the scope of small to medium municipalities, yet many of them engage in projects that have nothing to do with their core responsibilities, like creating new public telecom providers, funding arts projects, hanging tasty bunting from City Hall's steps.  All well and good, but those things seem to point out the fact that many munis, and states too, make choices about where their money goes - so that they have budget shortfalls now should not be a call to reinforce their self-destructive behaviors.

Unless, of course, your name is Joe Biden, and you have a chance to call Republicans "rapists" in public.  Out here in the real world, Joe, that kind of insulting talk gets you smacked

Palaeologus
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Palaeologus
Chris Campion:  Biden knows that the last thing municipalities will cease to fund are their core reasons for being - local law enforcement, firefighting, street maintenance, etc.  Everything else is literally beyond the scope of small to medium municipalities, yet many of them engage in projects that have nothing to do with their core responsibilities, like creating new public telecom providers, funding arts projects, hanging tasty bunting from City Hall's steps.

Bullseye. In my neck of the woods a second attempt at a pointless millage in two years is underway. Once again, every other house on my block has a yard sign that reads: Police. Fire. Roads. YES!

In terms of labor, how come I never see a millage for paid lunches for city workers, gas mileage for city workers, advertising campaigns for millages for city workers, or metermaids? Just police and firefighters.

In terms of infrastructure I never see millages for park benches, art festivals, video cameras, or billboards with public service announcements.

Roads, bridges, and schools always seem to be lacking funds though.

Edited on October 22, 2011 at 3:13am
wilber forge
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wilber forge

What always seems to be missing for the dialog on infrastructure. The taxes were collected and then the decison for deferred maintenance kicked in.

Simply allowed the funds to be directed to favored projects to curry voters.

If there is an emergency, the politicians created it, call them on it. 

barbara lydick
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barbara lydick

Stand the first responders and teachers in the front row to threaten the citizens of any city, township, etc., and tell ‘em it’s cough up the money or else.  Behind them are the trash collectors, and other essential city service providers.  Bloated bureaucracies in both local gov’ts and schools – brought to us courtesy of the Federal Gov’t – are never are in that picture, along with the pensions and perks for those workers.

Well, the money is running out and hard choices have to be made.  No, wait.  Here’s the Big O and Biden riding in to the rescue.  Ah.  Another year we don’t have to worry about.  And to thank our benefactors, we can all vote to ensure several more years of no worry…


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