She's Just Jenny on the Chopping Block
Claire Berlinski, Ed. ·
January 24, 2012 at 6:55pm
Now, mind you, I'm not sure I'm persuaded by the ad's message: How does it help a people who are already suffering so to deprive them of Fiats? Or any of the other cars that are sold in Iran? I can see the logic of the oil embargo, or an embargo on materials that could be used to advance the nuclear program, but a car embargo?
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Aug '10
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I guess it depends on how many of those cars are sold to regular Iranians, and how many are sold to the government.
It might also depend on what kind of kick-backs Fiat pays to the government of Iran for the privilege of doing business in their country.
Apr '11
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Well if we actually hated Iranians and wanted them to suffer for any of them crossing us. We would go for a full embargo to deny them anything that might make any of their lives better, or happier. That is the thing though we don't hate Iranians, we want them to have better lives. We think their government which threatens us also makes their lives terrible (which is true), and that without that the Iranian people can be prosperous and happy and we can feel safe. We want a win win scenario. It is hard to get that outcome when you play against an opponent that just wants to see you lose...
Edited on January 24, 2012 at 9:52pmAug '10
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The division of Fiat is a truck company whose products are universal in their existence. It's a pretty far stretch.
Now the bargain basement deal that Obama and the UAW did with Fiat for Chrysler that contravened 100 years of contract law in the US, there's reason for anger.
The Taliban is fond of Toyota trucks, so what ? Fidel Castro drinks rum and Coca Cola. I bet Erdogan eats Oscar Meyer hot dogs. ( yeah I know just the turkey kind).
Have Ms Lopez call Obama and tell him (and Valerie Jarrett) to enforce the banking embargo, that will help alot. Or have her call India and tell them to stop sending gold to Tehran. Maybe tickle Putin's chin while cooing " please Vlad dont sell Syria fighter jets......"
Edited on January 24, 2012 at 7:16pmApr '11
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As I've argued many times before, sanctions do not work. They just hurt people.
Mar '11
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This presents a chance for far too many puns for me to pass up. I apologize in advance.
Iran, a regime of religious "Fiat"....
If you've ever driven a Fiat, you know that the only place they belong is in Iran....
Fiat voluntas JLo.....(please don't smite me for that)
No, but seriously folks, I'm all for sending Fiats to Iran, as long as their the type fuel efficient car that will aid in the "Green Revolution"....
May '10
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The film just seems to be an attempt to condemn Fiat more than to damn the Iranian regime; the regime is used just as a convenient cudgel to knock Fiat with.
You don't like Fiat and Jennifer Lopez, o.k., but, they are not the offensive party in this film.
May '10
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If we really hated Iranians we would sell them Chevy Volts.
Jul '11
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The dangers of Fiat currency are protean.
Dec '10
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The real crime in all of this is that it's a downright fugly car.
Aug '10
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I dunno 'bout that. At least the sticker price is sorta true to the spirit of the original Fiat 500, unlike the grotesquely overpriced Mini and "new" Beetle.
These are supposed to be budget cars, right?
On the other hand, the Hyundai Accent starts at $12,500, and is clearly a superior vehicle where utility is concerned, and arguably better-looking to boot, so what the heck is the point of the Fiat 500?!
Edited on January 24, 2012 at 9:43pmNov '10
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That Fiat 500 is a nice car, and I'd buy one in a second if I didn't have a pack of rug rats to haul around. Let's start talking about the concessions Obama makes to Iran and see if we should buy his brand again...
Aug '11
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Peugeot gets around both tariffs and embargoes, and just has their cars made in house, inside Iran. Now that's enough to make you pity even the leadership in Iran.
(I'm taking a jab at the suffering caused by having to drive French cars.)
Edited on January 24, 2012 at 10:31pmMar '11
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In 1985 I owned a 1979 Fiat for a five years......Given how much effort it kept to keep it running, say again how is it a plus that Fiat is selling them to Iran? They were called "Fix It Again Tony" for a reason. Let them try to find the damn parts to keep em running.
Aug '10
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Yeah, but today they enjoy Chrysler level reliabili... uh, never mind.
Dec '10
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Why is it OK to relentlessly pursue Amercan Corporations over the idiocy of "Global Warming" and "Quota-Based Affirmative Action" and miss the clear and present danger that the Iranian situation represents. Doesn't J.Lo have enough money? Can't she stop and think a little about Iran before she peddles her assets for Fiat.
Dec '10
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Fiat does also make heavy equipment, for construction and other industrial uses. It's very likely that some Fiat-made equipment is being used directly in the construction of Iran's nuclear program facilities.
But the real purpose of this ad is to attach the notion of opposing a nuclear Iran to an instantly recognizable ad campaign. The makers aren't seeking to force Fiat to change its policies so much as they are trying to get the maximum number of people in the USA to think about Iran and what a nuclear Iran would mean.
May '11
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Embargo everything. If they are so durned stout in their hatred for us, then let them go without the benefit of association. If the people do not hate us, the harder we squeeze, the sooner they get rid of their dictators. If they do hate us, it's not our problem. Either way, the most expensive, dangerous, cruel, and ineffective method is to play with carefully-selected, State Department-approved tittles and jots of economic distortion. As a government cannot produce beneficial effects through heavy-handedness, neither can it produce surgical, precise destruction through ham-fisted meddling in other economies.
This age which can perhaps be summed up as the conceit that with a detailed enough plan, it is possible to leap a canyon with a number of short hops. In World War II, one went to war until the war was over. It helps draw a line between war and not-war, it presumably aids in raising the threshold for joining a war, and it certainly helps motivate an end to any given war.
I am not anti-war any more than I am anti-sanction. But if we are to do it, we ought to do it right.
May '11
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Don't get me wrong--I would like to visit Iran someday. One of our great disgraces as a nation is that our government sided openly with the oppressive government of Iran when the people were asking for help and dying in the streets. Throughout the summer of 2009, I caught updates via Twitter from Winston80 while stationed in Afghanistan.
Edited on January 25, 2012 at 2:36pmNaturally, my comments on those days were much different in character than these days.
Apr '11
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Misthiocracy
Yeah, but today they enjoy Chrysler level reliabili... uh, never mind. · 23 hours ago
I have been hearing that Fix-It-Again-Tony thing for years. Things have changed, however. Ever hear of the Multi Air engine? Some of the most advanced engine and power train technology is coming directly from research at Fiat. It seems to be my week for defending the Italians, but many many of them are quite fearless, and lest we forget, where do you think the Ferraris and the Lamborghinis came from?