Sarah Palin or Jan Brewer?
An outspoken female governor of a western state. Reviled by all of the right people. Attacked in the press. Takes clear stands on controversial issues. Seems to have lots of real brass.
Sarah Palin or Jan Brewer, governor of Arizona?
As Diane notes in a previous post, Sarah Palin is having trouble convincing people that she'd be an "effective" president, whatever that means. Diane and I agree, I think, that one of the things that has hurt Palin's credibility -- at least it has for me -- is her abrupt resignation from her post as governor of Alaska.
Being a governor matters. A sitting governor can have a huge amount of influence on the national conversation, and the direction of the country.
So, how about an informal Ricochet poll? Who would be a more effective president, Sarah Palin or Jan Brewer?
My vote: Governor of Arizona Jan Brewer.
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Jul '10
Re: Sarah Palin or Jan Brewer?
Brewer for the same reason you've touched on here.
May '10
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Jan.
Aug '10
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Brewer.
Jul '10
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Back to "Palin the Quitter" meme. Well, if you look at what the Obama Feds were revving up for Alaska (and Palin), you could see that if Palin cared about Alaska, she had to resign. She has been the prime target for Obama's political machine. The first thing was to make the polar bear an endangered species. That was a move to cut off the bear's hunting grounds to any human activity. That is, the north slope, and oil drilling. And it would not have stopped there. Remember that MOST of Alaska is owned and controlled by Federal bureaucracy. This has been Palin's aim from the beginning: that the State of Alaska take control of more of its land.
Palin has been attacked both personally and politically. And she just bounces back. I will be so interested to see how 'her' candidates do this November!
Jun '10
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I certainly understand the problem Palin has with having resigned the governorship. It seriously bothers me as well. It is, however, hard not to admit that she has made the absolute most out of the last year since she resigned. There is no way she could have been as influential as Governor of Alaska, as she has been as a free agent. No longer is Palin the newbie hick from Wasilla. Whether it be on Facebook, where she laid down well expressed comments that literally rumbled like thunder on a stormy night, forcing Gibbs or Obama directly and publicly to respond to her, or on the Tea Party campaign trail, where she has become, arguably, the most significant "kingmaker" operating in politics today, Sarah Palin not only has increased her visability, but she has softened her critics as she has gained a vast deal more respect. If she wants it, best not count her out. I might ask, how long was Obama a Senator from Illinois before he started running for President? Isn't it more outrageous to NOT resign from one office when one starts to run for another. Isn't that hugely deceitful and dishonest? Go Sarah.
Aug '10
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I really don't know enough about Gov. Brewer other than her taking a stand against the Federal Government over the Illegal Immigration kerfuffle. I support her, and Arizona, in that. But that a President doesn't make for me.
I like Sarah Palin as an advocate of Conservative ideas, but my opinion is if she became President we'd see Bush Derangement Syndrome 2.0 as Palin Derangement Syndrome. I'd rather she stick to advocating American values, and convincing people that our ideas work.
Having said that, I'd take Gov. Brewer over Gov. Palin. But both have far better experience as an Executive than the current President.
Jul '10
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Neither, but if forced to choose. I'd go with Brewer.
And I must say, Hawaii Governor Linda Lingle's 2008 GOP convention speech was far more impressive than Palin's
And she's done a pretty good job at the helm in Hawaii, with a legislature full of moonbats.
May '10
Re: Sarah Palin or Jan Brewer?
Do we think anyone has a jump on the 2011 Mama Grizzly Calendar? I also have an idea for a (wholesome, tasteful, respectful) calendar of right-of-center female journalists (presuming we can come up with 12).
Who's with me?
Edited on Aug 31, 2010 at 2:01pmJun '10
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I would not support either as a first choice, especially Brewer (who I know little about except for signing the immigration enforcement bill, with which I agree).
On balance, however, I would support Palin as in a head-to-head with Governor Brewer.
In my view, Mitch Daniels, Jebb Bush (though I can't see him going for it), MItt Romney, and Tim Pawlenty (in some combination) would provide a strong ticket to counterbalance Obama/Biden (the thoughts of Obama/Biden with a second term just brings on a panic attack). Huckabee or Gingrich would be disasters. Palin would be far better than either.
Re: Sarah Palin or Jan Brewer?
I don't think anyone can deny Palin's remarkable ability to pick -- and make, in some cases -- winners. My guess is, no matter how well the Republicans do in November, she'll be a big part of their success. But if you read through these comments, what strikes me is that we're all making fairly cautious and restrained points. Which suggests that, as usual, the left wing media is in for surprise if it expects our side to shoot itself in the foot.
Jul '10
Re: Sarah Palin or Jan Brewer?
In the primaries, maybe.
But if I were a GOP candidate in the general election, I'd welcome her PAC cash, but sure wouldn't want her campaigning in my district. Why take a chance of waking up the zombies?
May '10
Re: Sarah Palin or Jan Brewer?
Jan by a good bit. She wouldn't be my first choice and I don't think either of them has shown themselves to be presidential material--but if one of them could rise to it, I think it would be Jan.
This is coming from someone who was excited by the Palin pick--and enjoyed watching the way that it gathered excitement around a campaign that was as dead as Dole's had been some years ago. I like Palin in that she really does have a talent for driving the left to some serious distraction, but I wouldn't vote Palin for president under most circumstances.
As a power broker and an agitator, though, Palin is dream.
Aug '10
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Oh, I suppose we must get this first-female-President thing out of our system the same way we seem to have had to get the first-black-President thing out of our system. (I hope we can survive these silly, symbolic indulgences.) In the case of the first black President, America deserved a good black President. I wish all children--especially black children--could have looked up to him without having to hear the qualifications from conservatives--or soon--from the Democrats too. Regarding Brewer, I am very curious to learn more about her. She does have courage in an area that I consider extremely important: illegal immigration. It is an issue with broadly important philosophical implications regarding free markets operating in and between sovereign political entities (viz., nations)--not the reverse. Individual rights to life, liberty and property may be God-given rights, but the protection of these rights cannot be guaranteed beyond the borders marked by the trust and the blood of one's fellow citizens. Individual prosperity derives from a debt to one's countrymen that can never be fully paid. Protecting their political and economic opportunity is a good first installment. On this, "Go Jan!"
May '10
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Right now, Jan is "Her Accidency," having ascended to the Governor's Mansion because Big Sis Napolitano went to Washington. She must win first.
Jul '10
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This is cutting off your nose to spite your face. Palin against four more years of Obama? Palin against Hillary? Palin against Biden?
Say what you want about the Chicago (and "journalistic") Machine taking down Palin, but I would have Jim Malone on my team and stick to my guns.
Jul '10
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Brewer.
Palin is much cuter and more likable. But if that is what it took to be President I'd run myself :--)
Brewer has a steel spine, and that counts for a lot. Palin may as well, but because she bailed on governing we may never really know.
Executive leadership is a tricky and mysterious quality. I suspect Palin is better serving us as a cheerleader (no slight implied) for conservatism. A very important role. Get the troops moving. But it takes a different set of talents to implement policy in the snakepit that is Washington. From what I have seen, Brewer exhibits those talents more than Palin.
Jul '10
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Brewer.
May '10
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Politics has to be more than the lesser of of two evils.
May '10
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Palin for me. I dig her guts and her attitude. I don't really care if she "quit" her prior job. Not a deal breaker for me. I don't think she will give in on conservative principles. I think she will have power because she could walk away from the Presidency and lead a full happy life without it. She doesn't "need" it like Clinton or Obama. She doesn't seem like a power addict (Obama) or an approval addict (Clinton). She won't play for a "legacy". She won't give in to be liked by the DC cocktail circuit.
I like Pawlenty, although I don't know much about him. I get a good vibe off him.
Huckabee, not a big fan. That prisoner release leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Romney. No way. If he gets the nod, I am staying home. He is the epitome of a go along to get along RINO. He is a a big government technocrat. Romneycare anyone? He will be one of those "reach across the aisle" capitulators. A collaborator with the big Left Euro-socialists.
Jun '10
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To add to heathermc #4, Alaska also has a quirky little law which prohibits the Governor from using state attorneys or state funds to defend against lawsuits while in office. All of those lefty hit-groups stacking ethics suits against Palin knew that full well, and they almost bankrupted her family. When she and her attorneys figured out a way to take in donations in order to keep the fight up, she got sued yet again because the solicitation letter 'could be construed' as coming from the Office of the Governor, and she was prohibited by the court from using that money to pay her attorneys. She couldn't win for losing, and I don't think anybody here would've done anything different.