Can it be true that Sarah Palin once slept with the entire Harlem Globetrotters team, was the 212th (and personal favorite) mistress of Tiger Woods and regularly snorts cocaine from the backs of the endangered okapis she keeps in her private Alaskan zoo with a carbon footprint almost as big as Al Gore's?

Though I forget the exact details of the lurid revelations in Joe McGinniss's new expose, I'm delighted - as a Palin fan - that they have emerged. If they're untrue, then the smear-job is a healthy sign that Palin remains the potential presidential candidate that the left most fears and is therefore best suited for the job. If they're true, it's even better, for there are few things I admire more in these dreary days of "career safety" than a politician with a juicy bit of hinterland.

Yes, I know you US conservatives can be a bit squeamish about this kind of thing. You prefer your candidates to be chaste and prayerful and clean. But I think it's important - especially now, in these dark times when it matters perhaps more than ever before that we find the candidate best suited to leading us out of this mess - that we learn to make a vital distinction: between those biographical characteristics which render a politician a dangerous liability; and those which don't matter one jot.

In the latter category, I'd definitely include anything related to illegal drugs, whether snorted from the back of oil drums or otherwise. Yes, illegal drugs are illegal. But then so was alcohol during Prohibition - and I'm sure that didn't prevent many great future politicians indulging, all the same. To put our current squeamishness about narcotics in perspective, let us remember that during the 19th century Queen Victoria; Pope Leo XIII, Pope Saint Pius X, Thomas Edison and Ulysses S Grant all took the equivalent of two fat lines of cocaine a day: that was the coca content of the recommended serving of the popular 19th century claret 'n' coke pick-me-up Vin Mariani. Does that mean we should now dismiss them all as addled junkies?

We need to be grown up about this. We need to recognize that much as we might like our politicians to be flawless superbeings of unsurpassed goodness, vision, and decency, the sort of people who actually want to become politicians tend almost by definition not to have those qualities. Winston Churchill was a drunk and a depressive; George Washington was a dopehead (well, I like to think so); Thomas Jefferson, I learn below from m'learned colleague Eric Ames, was not to be trusted in financial affairs. Still didn't stop them doing an OK job as politicians though, did it?

So what areas of a politician's past should we worry about? Almost nothing that they ever got up to in their private life, I would suggest, however lurid. It's perfectly possible to be a flagrant adulturer and yet be a great politician, as I'm sure some great French politician I can't immediately think of - but I'm sure the was one - must once have proved. Ditto drugs. Ditto underage mules. Ditto pretty much everything.

No, where I think we should care - really, really care, way more than we currently do - about a politician's past are on the details of his nascent career as a politician. Suppose for example, a candidate were to have risen mysteriously through the Chicago political machine, his rise through law school funded by unidentified backers; suppose it were found that he was friends with - and had had his autobiography ghosted by - a former terrorist; suppose it became pretty obvious after just the most cursory examination of his political affiliations that this man were the radical left's Manchurian Candidate. Now that would be the kind of case where a politician's background rendered him entirely unsuitable for major public office. Luckily, our watchful media would never allow such a thing to happen.

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Trace Urdan
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Trace Urdan

 Do you hire out for dinner parties James? Hilarious.

flownover
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flownover

iowahawk tweeted:

Rumor: like America, once Sarah Palin had brief affair with attractive black man http://read.bi/pyqlzo

( do I see some Kardashian envy coming ? )

Edited on Sep 16, 2011 at 12:40pm

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michael kelley

So, she had sex out of wedlock and snorted some blow.

My Heavens, this can only mean one thing - she grew up in the 70's and the 80's.

Ah, I had no idea that Sarah was so depraved.  Probably listened to Led Zeppelin and The Who.

Gus Marvinson
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Gus Marvinson

You admit to admiring Sarah Palin on Ricochet? But she's unserious, unsophisticated, uncouth, and unelectable. Of course, I prefer Palin myself for reasons similar to yours, but stated in the positive. A quote from a signer of the Declaration of Independence, Benjamin Rush, on integrity:

"By integrity I mean...a strict coincidence between thoughts, words, and actions."

This quality, integrity, Palin has to a depth that none of the current candidates can hope to approach with the possible exception of Ron Paul, but Paul is...well...you know. Palin has been consistent throughout her political career. I pray for her entry into the race, but am prepared to support Perry if I must.

The current administration has to go.

flownover
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flownover

michael kelley: So, she had sex out of wedlock and snorted some blow.

My Heavens, this can only mean one thing - she grew up in the 70's and the 80's.

Ah, I had no idea that Sarah was so depraved.  Probably listened to Led Zeppelin and The Who. · Sep 16 at 12:37pm

If she had continued to screw around and do coke, then today she would qualify for membership in Congress as a respectable Democrat.

Sisyphus
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Sisyphus

Cannot begin to agree with you on illegal drugs, I'm afraid. Judgment is a big deal in these cases, and showing the bad judgment to ingest substances that undermine judgment, temporarily or permanently, is the slippery slope to stupid. Alcohol is a drug whose effects are well understood in the culture, readily detected, and barring long term abuse mostly harmless.

I am authoritatively informed that alcohol was a hugely important component in the daily schedule of American generals in the European Theater during the invasion of Europe. The horrors they encountered every day was just a never-ending nightmare. War is Hell is a cliché for a good reason. I have read the diatribes on the alcohol-induced mistakes that Churchill is reputed by some to have made and some are certainly horrible. Stipulating them all as true, Churchill was a man of his time faced with horrors at least as bad as the American general staff. 

I am not a friend to people who want to defame the men who did grueling, horrific jobs in the defense of my parents and grandparents because they lacked angelic fortitude and precision. We are all fragile mortals contending with history.

Ethan Safron

Another positive: this whole thing brought this hilarious article into existence."Real Liberal Politics. No Corporate Money. No Masters." The slogans of liberal sites are always hilarious- "Democracy in Action" anyone?

By the way, is it just me or does Glen Rice look exactly like Kanye in that picture?


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michael kelley

flownover

michael kelley: So, she had sex out of wedlock and snorted some blow.

My Heavens, this can only mean one thing - she grew up in the 70's and the 80's.

Ah, I had no idea that Sarah was so depraved.  Probably listened to Led Zeppelin and The Who. · Sep 16 at 12:37pm

If she had continued to screw around and do coke, then today she would qualify for membership in Congress as a respectable Democrat. · Sep 16 at 12:42pm

Genius, flownover.  I'm thinking head of the DNC.

Sisyphus
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Sisyphus

Regarding General Washington, hemp was a standard crop of the day, made wonderfully strong ropes, and its utility for recreation was understood and appreciated, usually in moderation, and such was not considered noteworthy in the day.

Tobacco was more addictive and less stinky from the perspective of the ladies, and if withdrawal from it made men abrasive, it did not make men stupid under the influence. We have a winner.

Duane Oyen
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Duane Oyen

My favorite angle on this is the set of lefty comments about Palin allegedly misbehaving in her early 20's, then opposing "How to be a playa" sex ed in schools in her 40's.  Hypocrisy! 

Uh, no.

We didn't reject Clinton for having a rug in the back of his pick-up in Arkansas in 1972; we didn't care.  We were concerned when he did classless things in the Oval Office and lied about it under oath.

I would bet that there are a lot of things Palin (or you, or I) did at 20 about which we have changed our thinking as we grew up.  I'm more worried about politicians who continue to believe in the tooth fairy despite irrefutable experience to the contrary ("jobs bill").

thelonious
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thelonious

 Rice and Palin do have one thing in common.  They're both great shooters.

// rim shot

David Williamson
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David Williamson

James - we have a chillout room for supporters of Mrs Palin - it's somewhere out in the wilds of Alaska, I think.

jetstream
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jetstream

Duane Oyen:  ...

I would bet that there are a lot of things Palin (or you, or I) did at 20 about which we have changed our thinking as we grew up.  I'm more worried about politicians who continue to believe in the tooth fairy despite irrefutable experience to the contrary ("jobs bill"). · Sep 16 at 1:36pm

Duane, are you implying there's no tooth fairy?  Come on man, that's brutal, there might be Democrats reading this.

Rosie
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Rosie

This is why its very difficult for conservative women to run for office if their past contains some (or various) indiscretions (not to imply that the allegations against Sarah Palin are true).  I think Andrew Breitbart has it right that if a conservative has any skeletons in their closet they should come clean about it right away or else the left will use it to crucify you.  But  I also believe this is another reason why a conservative leaning individual will not run for any elective office, they don't want to expose some very private and often embarassing aspects of their life or the lives of their family. 

CJRun
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CJRun

 I draw the line at mules and underage mules are flat out.

jetstream
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jetstream

Sisyphus: ...

I am authoritatively informed that alcohol was a hugely important component in the daily schedule of American generals in the European Theater during the invasion of Europe.  ...

Sisyphus - don't know about the generals in WWII, but, the O bars in Thailand during the tussle in Vietnam often had more in common with frat parties than a meeting of officers and gentlemen.  Drinks were 25 cents and provided a release valve for pilots to blow off large amounts of steam.

One night a group of f-105 rowdies in Korat got a little more out of control than usual  and totally trashed the bar.  What they didn't know was the commander was in the bar and watched the last 10 minutes or so.  When they realized they had an audience, they tried to stand up and salute the commander.  The commander just asked them "are you guys having fun" and they said, "Yes Sir".  The commander said, "Ok then, I'll be back in 20 minutes".  Twenty minutes later the bar was spick and span and the next day everyone was back on the schedule sight seeing over North Vietnam.

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

There may not be a tooth fairy, but there's definitely a Santa Claus.

Cas Balicki
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Cas Balicki

Surely, at a minimum, we can draw the line at elephant-jackass miscegenation. Give a thought to the issue for pity sake: a rino.

Percival
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Percival

jetstream

Sisyphus: ...

I am authoritatively informed that alcohol was a hugely important component in the daily schedule of American generals in the European Theater during the invasion of Europe.  ...

Sisyphus - don't know about the generals in WWII, but, the O bars in Thailand during the tussle in Vietnam often had more in common with frat parties than a meeting of officers and gentlemen.  Drinks were 25 cents and provided a release valve for pilots to blow off large amounts of steam... · Sep 16 at 2:52pm

It reaches far back into our past.  I have read where the per capita alcohol consumption in the Colonial Era was approximately twice what it is today.

What made the Patriots think that they could best the British Army and Royal Navy?  Our forefathers brought forth on this continent a new nation -- because they were completely bent.

flownover
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flownover

What was this post about ?? Oh yeah... Now who wouldn't want to have some drinks with Sarah and Tod ? They're both pretty cool. And maybe crank up the Who and Zep after too many drinks later ?


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