Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
Quinnipac releases the results of its latest poll:
The Republican presidential face-off in Ohio is too close to call as former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum has 35 percent of likely Republican primary voters to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney’s 31 percent, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.
This is down from a 36-29 lead several days ago. Gingrich has 17 percent and Paul has 12 percent. And more than a third of those surveyed said their vote could still change. Other interesting details:
Santorum leads Romney 34 – 28 percent among men and 37 – 33 percent among women, 40 – 27 percent among self-described conservatives and 42 – 25 percent among Tea Party members. Romney leads Santorum 46 – 26 percent among self-described moderates.
Jim Geraghty at The Corner notes another fun thing about the survey of likely GOP primary voters:
Another fascinating wrinkle: working-class populist Rick Santorum is winning among those making more than $100,000 per year, 42 percent to 33 percent for Romney.
Meanwhile, among those making $30,000 per year or less… Romney narrowly leads Santorum, 33 percent to 32 percent.
Sitting here one day after Breitbart's death, I'm thinking about something Matt Welch told about Breitbart years ago:
"Every day I wake up in the battle about media bias," [Breitbart] says. "The best analogy I can give to you is this: Have you ever gone to like the Santa Monica Pier, and seen one of those holograms on the wall, and you're supposed to stare at it for a while, and there's supposed to be, like, a magical castle in it? Well you look and you look and you can't see that castle and you can't see that castle, but eventually your eyes focus in such a way that the castle comes up. And then you can't not see the castle. That's how media bias comes to you from the conservative angle."
That quote has stayed with me. And as a media critic, you could say I'm staring at that hologram full time now. But even little things like this poll result ... the media have told us that Rick Santorum has no appeal to the wealthy and that Mitt Romney's only appeal is to the wealthy. They go to war with the narrative that they want, not the reality that they are charged with reporting. It's just another reminder to be on guard whenever you read or watch, well, anything.
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Dec '10
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
This morning I heard a caller on Bill Bennett's show mistakenly refer to the MSM debate moderators as narrators. Perhaps he wasn't that far off from the reality.
Jun '10
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
Theoretically, tough men don't cry at weddings, and theoretically, Romney's already nominated. Problem is, humans don't always follow the script.
Feb '12
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
Wait, a poll of likely republican primary voters, a small subset of the general population, finds that about a third of them don't mind a preachy, staunch social conservative, and to Mollie that is proof that people who speculate that Santorum will have trouble in the general election, where a lot more people beside republican primary voters will come out, are showing media bias. Color me unimpressed with that analysis.
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
Simmer down, there, MJMack. I know you're a huge Romney fan so let's look at it that way. We're told that Romney has no appeal to normal people or that his wealth is a turnoff (to general and primary voters). But lookie here! He's winning people who make under $30,000 a year. How can that be? Or do you still buy the media narrative that Romney can never win over people who don't have outrageous wealth?
Nov '11
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
The MSM pushes conspiracy theories, while they sneer at birthers. Ironic? Perhaps, but not amusing.
Feb '12
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
I wouldn't call myself a "huge Romney fan" merely a pragmatic conservative who has accepted the obvious and plentiful weaknesses of the alternatives to Romney. If I sometimes seem strident in my defense of Romney, it is because I grow frustrated at the mental gymnastics and strained arguments employed by many conservatives to deny the obvious facts about the field as well as the nature and mindset of the general electorate. Conservatives aren't supposed to champion magical thinking and construct arguments full of tortured logic in defense of the fantastical results they'd like to see. To put it succinctly, my umbrage doesn't rise from outrage on Romney's behalf, it's from disillusionment with the foolishness of conservatives.
As fare as what this poll tells us, if you feel compelled to run with the results of a single poll, when I doubt you've even looked into the assumptions behind the respondent screen, and take that single snapshot as indicative of anything meaningful, be my guest. The polls have told us all sorts of things this elections season, just about all of it has been garbage.
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
You're right. Most people just really don't trust or relate to Romney and never will. Wishing it were otherwise won't make it so.
But, you know, what are you going to do? Seems like he's going to be the candidate the GOP is saddled with even though he can't even win over the working class of voters.
Feb '12
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I don't claim that Romney will be able to do this. Only that he has a better chance than the other GOP candidates.
Which makes the dismal performance of his rivals all the more pathetic, doesn't it, Mollie. And kind of proves my point.
Dec '10
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
Mollie Hemingway, Ed.
You're right. Most people just really don't trust or relate to Romney and never will. Wishing it were otherwise won't make it so.
But, you know, what are you going to do? Seems like he's going to be the candidate the GOP is saddled with even though he can't even win over the working class of voters. · 7 minutes ago
Mollie, be careful, just don't mention "coffee" and "Romney" in the same post. As I learned yesterday, that is not a politically correct combination of words, and apparently Romney's PC police won't allow it.
Feb '12
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Jetstream, let me take this opportunity to admit that my charges against you yesterday were totally baseless and completely knee-jerk and hyper-sensitive. Your humor was most certainly original, clever, and incredibly hilarious. Furthermore, please know that I don't regard your desire to bring that disagreement up here in a totally unrelated thread as the least bit petty or immature.
Nov '11
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
Non-apology apologies are the best.
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
Things are not always as they seem. In Michigan Santorum, who is fiercely Catholic, lost the Catholic vote to Romney but picked up the evangelical vote. I am told that Santorum lost the absentee-ballot vote in an extremely lopsided way and actually won the vote of those who showed up at the polls -- albeit, in a less extremely lopsided way.
Feb '12
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
Thanks! I was worried I was being too subtle.
Seriously, though, its time to let this go, and we certainly don't need others joining in the fun and trying to make the fire bigger.
Sep '10
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
Francis Beckwith of Baylor University articulated why in a column today.
Apr '11
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
At the breakfast table today, I had to deconstruct the article on page 2 of the Seattle Times about Andrew Breitbart. This isn't the first time I've had to take apart their articles. Somehow, the facts just won't cooperate with the narrative the media have chosen.
Feb '11
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
What this snapshot tells me, a former resident of the Buckeye State, is that social conservatism outweighs fiscal conservatism in the Ohio Republican party. Although, I could have told you that with merely anecdotal evidence.
Apr '11
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
Mollie Hemingway, Ed.
You're right. Most people just really don't trust or relate to Romney and never will. Wishing it were otherwise won't make it so.
But, you know, what are you going to do? Seems like he's going to be the candidate the GOP is saddled with even though he can't even win over the working class of voters. ·
I don't know whether to object to your analysis or whether doing so would just make me look really stupid. I think that you were engaged in very clever humor that would have brought me round to your point of view if I did not already agree with it. If not, please imagine me to have written the obvious comment denouncing overstatements.
As yesterday's mild kerfuffle with Jetstream reminds me, even comments that explicitly state that I'm not sure I've understood a comment may be taken as condemnation for things that I say might have been intended, I'd like to make it clear that I greatly respect Mollie, MJMack, Jetstream, and each and every other person who might take offense at my denunciation and/ or non-denunciation.
Jan '11
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I looked up kerfuffle... it's what happens when you pet a chicken the wrong direction.
Re: Santorum Wins Men, Women, Conservatives and ... the Wealthy?
James Of England
I don't know whether to object to your analysis or whether doing so would just make me look really stupid. Ithinkthat you were engaged in very clever humor that would have brought me round to your point of view if I did not already agree with it. If not, please imagine me to have written the obvious comment denouncing overstatements.
As yesterday's mild kerfuffle with Jetstream reminds me, even comments that explicitly state that I'm not sure I've understood a comment may be taken as condemnation for things that I say might have been intended, I'd like to make it clear that I greatly respect Mollie, MJMack, Jetstream, and each and every other person who might take offense at my denunciation and/ or non-denunciation. · Mar 2 at 10:27am
You were right not to denounce me! I was just messing with MJMack. Kind of woke up on the wrong side of bed that morning.
But I'm better now!