Tim Groseclose · May 11, 2012 at 3:16pm

For lots of reasons I oppose unions.  One is that they ruin industries and cause businesses to provide worse service.

But what if the business provides a service that is morally repugnant?  Such is the case, I believe, in Portland, Oregon, where the SEIU wants to unionize a Planned Parenthood office.   The SEIU has made plans to  picket the office.  Oregon Governor John Kitzhaber, in response, canceled his plans to attend the office's annual fundraising dinner.  As the Daily Caller reported

“The governor will not cross the picket line and has canceled his appearance,” Kitzhaber spokesman Tim Raphael told Willamette Weekly.

The pressure caused PPCW to cancel the entire $250-per-plate event on Wednesday.

“It is with great disappointment that I write to let you know that we have decided to cancel our upcoming Spring Gala next Saturday, May 12,” David Greenberg, president and CEO of PPCW wrote in an email to supporters, obtained by Willamette Weekly.

“The decision by SEIU to picket our event has put many of our supporters into the untenable position of having to choose between two organizations, and two progressive causes, both of which they support,” Greenberg wrote, explaining that the organization wishes to respect their supporters’ allegiances to both groups.

I'm with the SEIU on this one.  I'll enjoy watching this squabble among progressives.

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Ken Owsley

This is why I rarely venture into Oregon.

It is interesting to see them go after each other, however.  The left rarely do that.

Mollie Hemingway, Ed.

I'm trying to figure out what unionization would do to Planned Parenthood. What would be some of the consequences of that?

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Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: I'm trying to figure out what unionization would do to Planned Parenthood. What would be some of the consequences of that? · 4 minutes ago

One consequence would be that employees would be required to pay union dues, adding to the coffers of the SEIU. This would give the SEIU additional funds to lobby for more taxpayer support for PP, and effectively make PP a government agency.

Tim Groseclose: For lots of reasons I oppose unions.  One is that they ruin industries and cause businesses to provide worse service.

I'm with the SEIU on this one.  I'll enjoy watching this squabble among progressives. · · 20 minutes ago

@Tim ... This may have the potential of an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" kind of situation, but I suspect it will lead to a further entrenchment of the abortion culture in our country.

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Israel Pickholtz

I'm for PP. If the union wins, it's over. If PP wins, it's temporary and will be replayed from time to time. Maybe more cancelled Spring Galas. Both sides spending money.

Pilli
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Pilli

A pox on both heir houses.

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Mark Belling Fan

The ... picket ... has put many of our supporters into the untenable position of having to choose between two organizations, and two progressive causes, both of which they support

First side to hire a gay Muslim wins!

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Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: I'm trying to figure out what unionization would do to Planned Parenthood. What would be some of the consequences of that? · 2 hours ago

I'd like to see the unionization the people who work for the unions.  How does their pay compare to the people represented by the unions?


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Jager

Foxman

I'd like to see the unionization the people who work for the unions.  How does their pay compare to the people represented by the unions? · 3 hours ago

There was a story a while back about a Union employee who tried to Unionize the staff for a Union. He was fired.

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CoolHand

Huh.

I'd have thought that folks who kill the defenseless for a living would have been a more natural fit with the Teamsters . . .

Edited on May 12, 2012 at 11:17am
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Israel Pickholtz: I'm for PP. If the union wins, it's over. If PP wins, it's temporary and will be replayed from time to time. Maybe more cancelled Spring Galas. Both sides spending money. · 21 hours ago

I agree with this.

Incidentally, there was a poll out today suggesting that if the election were held today, Romney might win Oregon. 4% down amongst registered voters, in a state with a 4% Mormon population? I'd say that was an odds on victory (although, of course, it's just one poll, and other polls are less favorable).


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Noesis Noeseos

You know, Hegel wrote something about how those who pretend to speak for the universal, the state as the objective moment, must, in an unjust state,  merely plead for their own particularities.  (The logic of this development sounds wierd to those philosophers weaned in the Anglo-American traditition, but eventually it reduces to the curiosities of the syllogism itself, that the extremes, while opposed, are mediated by the middle term.  But that is a lesson for another time, Liebchen.)

The bottom line here is that factions who petition the state for personal preference, rather than for a truly educated desire to partake in the common good, must necessarily come to enter into combat with others who do the same.  That they claim to speak for the common good only renders their actions all the more hypocritical.

Thus Planned Parenthood vs. SEIU; rent-seekers abandon their alliance of convenience and revert to the natural state in the war of each against all.  Hobbes must chuckle even as he weeps.

Edited on May 14, 2012 at 5:30am

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