Rubio Endorses Romney
Andrew Barrett ·
March 29, 2012 at 3:26pm
Marco Rubio endorsed Mitt Romney on Sean Hannity last night. I am curious to hear reactions from the Anybody-but-Romney crowd, particularly regarding Rubio's comments about a brokered convention.
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Oct '10
Re: Rubio Endorses Romney
I agree with this:
And I disagree with this:
Rubio is not merely a politician in the eyes of the conservative electorate. Many primary voters (myself included) consider him to be our long-term plan. So when he endorses Romney, even at this late hour, a lot of Republicans will say, "Romney fits the long-term plan better than any other candidate, even if he leaves something to be desired right now."
That said, Rubio's endorsement is worthless to Romney in the general election -- unless he's on the ticket. A prime time speech at the convention isn't enough. Obama's speech at the convention in 2004 couldn't save Kerry. We win with Rubio as VP, and lose with anyone else. I think he's that important for us, especially among "trendy voters" and independents.
Edited on March 29, 2012 at 6:30pmMay '10
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James Of England
I was wondering whether the US Ambassadors to the Vatican were moral conservatives.
Is it any worse than term "social conservatives"? Aren't all political issues social issues? I thought society is what politics is all about.
Oct '10
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Aaron Miller
Is it any worse than term "social conservatives"? Aren't all political issues social issues? I thought society is what politics is all about. · 5 minutes ago
I can hear all the libertarians screaming: "Society doesn't exist! Only individuals exist!"
Sep '10
Re: Rubio Endorses Romney
Just about anyone that has ever worked as an executive at Goldman Sachs?
Mar '12
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Duane,
There is a three-legged stool called Republicanism. There are fiscal or small government conservatives, moral conservatives (think anti-abortion or pro-marriage between a male and a female), and the defense of our country conservatives.
I was surprised that someone posting at Ricochet would not know about those conservative positions.
Romney does not appear to be a moral conservative because of his previous stance on abortion. One of his former competitors called him a well-oiled weather vane because he responds to whatever audience he is standing in front of. If he is appealing to progressives and Democrats, we'll see if his position changes again.
Dec '11
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It didn't hurt that two of Rubio's mentors - Jeb Bush and Jim DeMint -have made endorsements; granted, DeMint's support is not yet "official" but coming soon to theaters everywhere... Let us also not overlook the support of Coulter, Christie, Coburn and Giuliani.
What an interesting and 'diverse' group of Republicans, indeed! Bodes well, perhaps, for the general election.
Most importantly, Rubio firmly believes in the power of the private sector and repeatedly emphasized this in his senatorial campaign. He continues to openly laud the inimitably positive effect that living in a free market had upon the welfare of his family.
Edited on March 29, 2012 at 8:55pmMay '10
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Just about anyone that has ever worked as an executive at Goldman Sachs?
And the set of people who have who have gotten anywhere near the Presidency?
Jun '10
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It seems I have supported EVERYBODY but Romney in this election so far (almost -- not Gingrich, Paul or Cain), but i completely agree with Rubio on this point. I believe that Rick has reached the end of the campaign. I like him, he's more conservative than Romney, but we cannot have a brokered convention, and I am convinced we will not. Gingrich's cash has already dried up, and Rick's soon will.
May '10
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ParisParamus:
Just about anyone that has ever worked as an executive at Goldman Sachs?
And the set of people who have who have gotten anywhere near the Presidency?
Is that a joke?
May '10
Re: Rubio Endorses Romney
Still waiting for names, please...
Corzine was a scuzzy NJ Gov., but that's not that close.
By the way, I question "Goldman Sachs" as being the model for Bain (Bain was the product of genuine out-of-the-box thinking; G-S is a well-known firm turbo-charged by government cronyism and revolving door chummy-ness), but even using such a crude benchmark, names please?
Edited on March 29, 2012 at 11:20pmAug '10
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I have accepted Romney as the inevitable nominee.
I have become comfortably numb.
Edited on March 29, 2012 at 11:05pmSep '10
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ParisParamus: Still waiting for names, please...
Corzine was a scuzzy NJ Gov., but that's not that close.
By the way, I question "Goldman Sachs" as being the model for Bain (Bain was the product of genuine out-of-the-box thinking; G-S is a well-known firm turbo-charged by government cronyism and revolving door chummy-ness), but even using such a crude benchmark, names please? · 32 minutes ago
Edited 2 minutes ago
You claimed that combined "business", "academia", and "government" experience was some rare trifecta of brilliance that made Romney uniquely qualified to be President. All I'm saying is that it isn't that rare, and it isn't sufficient evidence.
Re: Rubio Endorses Romney
Let's see. Romney was valedictorian at Brigham Young and did well at Harvard Law and Business School. How that makes him really special I do not see. As for his success in politics, I beg to differ. His greatest achievement was to pave the way by example for Obamacare and to make his own re-election as Governor in Massachusetts impossible. You can call that success if you want to, but only the starry-eyed will buy into it.
Romney has only one card to play. He is an accomplished turn-around artist. I prefer him to the available alternatives for that reason -- and for that reason alone. Rubio's tepid endorsement seems to me apt.
Apr '11
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Aaron Miller
JamesOfEngland
I was wondering whether the US Ambassadors to the Vatican were moral conservatives.
Is it any worse than term "social conservatives"? Aren't all political issues social issues? I thought society is what politics is all about. ·
It's used some of the time by anti-Mormon advocates; I didn't know which sense of the term he was using, but he listed negative adverts as his basis and voted for King of Bain Newt. This at least raised the possibility of a religious beliefs of the candidate vote, as the exit polls put it. I hoped to be responsive to both meanings.
He later clarified, though, (comment 25) that meant the term as synonymous with social conservative and that he was persuaded by Gov. Huntsman's attacks that Romney might not retain a pro-life position. I don't think this very plausible (he'd hemorrhage support and gain nothing, and it would be at odds with who he is), but it is less ambiguous than before.
May '10
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I'm sorry, but getting elected to one of the 50 states, and a fairly important one at that, is a huge accomplishment. Steering MA away from the unMittigated disaster that is single payer is Romney's biggest single accomplishment in office; part of fixing the state fiscally, overall.
Prof. Rahe, like 93% of all center-right people, you vastly underestimated Romney's talents and potential. You will again be very pleasantly surprised, in November, and beyond.
Edited on March 30, 2012 at 1:20amMay '10
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All I'm saying is that it isn't that rare, and it isn't sufficient evidence.
Sufficient evidence of what? My point is that no one this accomplished in business has gotten this close. The usual end-of-the-line for business people in politics is a Senate seat. Yes, President Bush did well in business, but not that well. That's my point. Not that he's guaranteed to be a great President, but that he brings an unprecedented "toolbox."
May '11
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To me it's like this: take all the great potential candidates- Mike Pence, Jim DeMint, Paul Ryan (my personal favorites although there are many others); put them all in a box that says "not available." Now pick all the less attractive candidates and put them in a box marked "these are your only options " and make us choose one of them to be our Republican Candidate. I am very unhappy that it has come to this. I do not feel that Romney will be Reagan....not even close...but at least he's not Obama. It's a very said state of affairs. Why? This is just one example of what's wrong with the Republican Party.
Apr '11
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ParisParamus:All I'm saying is that it isn't that rare, and it isn't sufficient evidence.
Sufficient evidence of what? My point is that no one this accomplished in business has gotten this close. The usual end-of-the-line for business people in politics is a Senate seat. Yes, President Bush did well in business, but notthatwell. That's my point. Not that he's guaranteed to be a great President, but that he brings an unprecedented "toolbox." ·
Right. Nothing Bush did is literally textbook. A colleague of mine who went to Barcelona for his MBA said that Romney was the most common example used for case studies in his field. That might be true of one or two Goldman execs, but it's certainly not true of many, and is not, I believe, true of any of those who have prospered in government.
He's probably not the greatest businessman of our age, but he's up there. His spending cuts in Massachusetts, and retention of a relatively free and highly successful education environment in the face of overwhelming teachers union and Democrat opposition were great achievements. Plus the Olympics. The package is uncommon.
Mar '12
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re 34 which stated: (comment 25) that meant the term as synonymous with social conservative and that he was persuaded by Gov. Huntsman's attacks that Romney might not retain a pro-life position. I don't think this very plausible (he'd hemorrhage support and gain nothing, and it would be at odds with who he is), but it is less ambiguous than before.
Who he is (or is not?) is the issue for moral conservatives.
One of the burdens Romney carries is that he is supposed to be acceptable to the moderates who will decide the election. Maybe. My impression is that conservatives won't hold his religion against him, but I was under the impression that progressives might. Will a position change mean that he might lose conservatives in the process?
Will the fact that Catholics, Mormons and blacks won the homosexual marriage debate / vote in California count against him? Will he weasel out of that position? Will he again suggest that if a sympathetic parent cannot be found to okay abortion for an underage woman, to find a sympathetic judge to okay that abortion?
Who he is? Really? Who is he? I don't know.
Edited on March 30, 2012 at 4:53pmApr '11
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Donald Todd:
Who he is (or is not?) is the issue for moral conservatives.
My impression is that conservatives won't hold his religion against him; I was under the impression that progressives might. Will a position change mean that he might lose conservatives in the process?
Will the fact that Catholics, Mormons and blacks won the homosexual marriage debate / vote in California count against him? Will he weasel out of that position? Will he again suggest that if a sympathetic parent cannot be found to okay abortion for an underage woman, to find a sympathetic judge to okay that abortion?
Who he is? Really? Who is he? I don't know. ·
While I'm happy to hear that you are not a "religion of candidate" voter, "who he is" is another common euphemism.
He's someone who fought gay marriage in Massachusetts, a less friendly environment than the United States. Also, embryonic stem cell research that might cure his wife's MS in an even more hostile context. Changing his views on either of these would constitute a massive attack on his character, and lose him support; even if Bishop Romney were unprincipled, that path would not be his.