James Delingpole · October 15, 2011 at 9:08pm

Not that you needed another reason to prefer Cain over Romney, but this is a good one, I think: (H/T Marc Morano at Climate Depot)

The GOP front-runner for 2012 sought advice on global warming and carbon emissions from the president's current science czar — an advocate of de-developing America and population control.

Politics is said to make strange bedfellows, but no coupling in our view is more bizarre than when John Holdren, now President Obama's assistant for science and technology, once advised GOP presidential candidate and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney on environmental policy.

Holdren's bizarre views are best suited for an adviser to someone like, say, Pol Pot.

And if you think the Pol Pot analogy is extreme you should look into Holdren's history sometime. I did for my book Watermelons and the thought that this guy has been allowed anywhere near the White House, let alone been appointed Obama's democratically unaccountable Science Czar should be counted among the blackest crimes of this disastrous presidency.

Consider the book Holdren wrote in 1977 (with fellow eco-catastrophists Paul and Anne Ehrlich) called Ecoscience.

Besides advocating state-enforced abortions for undesirables and the mass sterilisation of humans through drugs in the water supply, the book argues for the creation of a "Planetary Regime". This Planetary Regime – perhaps run under the auspices of "UNEP and the United Nations population agencies" – would "control the development, administration, conservation and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or non-renewable, at least insofar as international implications exist." [I particularly dig that so- extreme-and-scary-it's-funny use of the italicised 'all'] (P942-3)

And there's more. This Planetary Regime "might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade….including all food on the international market." And, of course, it would be given responsibility "for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries' shares within their regional limits." Oh and obviously, in order to ensure the New World Order runs smoothly, there would need to be "an armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force" – just in case formerly free citizens around the world started getting uppity about the "partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization." (P.917)

 

And Romney thought this guy was worth consulting for advice? What does that say about his judgement?

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Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

I think its clear that Romney was on an undercover sting operation to stop the madness.

raycon and lindacon
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raycon

And Romney thought this guy was worth consulting for advice? What does that say about his judgment?

He has none!

Mel Foil
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etoiledunord

From: December 7, 2005, ROMNEY ANNOUNCES STRICT NEW CLEAN AIR REGULATIONS....

http://myclob.pbworks.com/w/page/21956517/12-07-2005

"Relative to off-site projects, the new regulations propose a two-tiered system of triggers and safety valves. [...] If the price of offsets climbs yet higher to a point with unacceptable economic impacts, or $10.00/ton, firms can then meet their emissions obligations by paying into a Greenhouse Gas Expendable Trust. The Trust will be used by the state to purchase new offsets or invest in the development of technology to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. The combination of these market-based mechanisms with stringent CO2 caps will lead to cost-effective environmental gains. “Today’s regulations will achieve our aggressive environmental goals and provide incentives to push technological development,” said Stephen Pritchard, Secretary of Environmental Affairs. In the development of greenhouse gas policy, Romney Administration officials have elicited input from environmental and economic policy experts. These include John Holden [sic], professor of environmental policy at Harvard University and chair of the National Commission on Energy Policy and Billy Pizer, an economist at Resources for the Future, an environmental policy think-tank based in Washington D.C."

Edited on October 15, 2011 at 9:49pm
The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

Preaching to the choir. Yer doin' it right. As damning as this should be it probably will have no traction. It won't dissuade the 23% of primary voters who are ardently behind Romney. For the rest of us who are on the ABM bandwagon, it's just confirmation of how astute we are in rejecting the Stepford Candidate.


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liberal jim

If Romney gets the GOP nod America will be given a choice between voting for a white Obama or a Black Obama.  

cdor
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cdor
liberal jim: If Romney gets the GOP nod America will be given a choice between voting for a white Obama or a Black Obama.   · Oct 15 at 1:07pm

I am no Romney fan, but lj, the hyperbole is pretty thick on that statement.

Richard Young
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Richard Young

So your idea of good judgment is to only seek input on complicated issues from people who think like you do?

Mel Foil
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etoiledunord
Richard Young: So your idea of good judgment is to only seek input on complicated issues from people who think like you do? · Oct 15 at 1:21pm

If it's an issue at all, it's a federal or international issue. Why would an individual state do this unilaterally? A state would only push this if it's involved in some evangelization on the subject. This is Mitt leading the way...the wrong way...again.

Severely Ltd.
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Severely Ltd.
Richard Young: So your idea of good judgment is to only seek input on complicated issues from people who think like you do? · Oct 15 at 1:21pm

Most of us look for input from people whose judgement we feel we can trust. Looking at someone's choice of advisers can be very telling, and given Mitt's penchant for straying far from conservative thinking I think this is just another nail in the coffin of his trustworthiness. I hope I don't have to vote for this guy.

Cas Balicki
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Richard Young: So your idea of good judgment is to only seek input on complicated issues from people who think like you do? · Oct 15 at 1:21pm

The issue is that idiots seek out idiots to gain idiotic advice on pseudo-scientific issues. 

Richard Young
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Cas Balicki

Richard Young: So your idea of good judgment is to only seek input on complicated issues from people who think like you do? · Oct 15 at 1:21pm

The issue is that idiots seek out idiots to gain idiotic advice on pseudo-scientific issues.  · Oct 15 at 1:51pm

Wow! That's persuasive. Romney has skated along pretty well for being an idiot.  Who would have known?

Cas Balicki
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Richard Young

Cas Balicki

Richard Young: So your idea of good judgment is to only seek input on complicated issues from people who think like you do? · Oct 15 at 1:21pm

The issue is that idiots seek out idiots to gain idiotic advice on pseudo-scientific issues.  · Oct 15 at 1:51pm

Wow! That's persuasive. Romney has skated along pretty well for being an idiot.  Who would have known? · Oct 15 at 2:21pm

Yeah! and when he's elected he'll likely allow the EPA to continue killing the economy. Anyone who can't see their way through the pseudo-science that is AGW is an idiot, in my view. The reality is that Romney is a bad choice. I only have to write Romneycare = Obamacare = Democrat whipping stick to prove it. That he may be doing well, says more about the field than it does about him. And if you can't see that, or you find is unpersuasive, let's wait until this Turkey is elected to continue this discussion. Obama, white indeed.

TeamAmerica
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TeamAmerica

 Um, Cass, your P.M. Harper is more conservative and has better judgment than Obama or Romney. If either of them is elected, could you sponsor me for Canadian citizenship? :-)

Edited on October 15, 2011 at 11:57pm
mesquito
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mesquito

 Nobody better tell Jen Rubin.

Give Me Liberty
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cdor

liberal jim: If Romney gets the GOP nod America will be given a choice between voting for a white Obama or a Black Obama.   · Oct 15 at 1:07pm

I am no Romney fan, but lj, the hyperbole is pretty thick on that statement. · Oct 15 at 1:16pm

Maybe it would be better said as Obama or Obama lite. 8D

Tom Wilson
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Tom Wilson

Romney has met and spoke with Holdren, that's the smoking gun? Do you have any evidence he agrees with him?

“I am uncertain how much of the warming, however, is attributable to man and how much is attributable to factors out of our control. I do not support radical feel-good policies like a unilateral U.S. cap-and-trade mandate. Such policies would have little effect on climate but could cripple economic growth with devastating results for people across the planet.” -- Mitt Romney No Apology, p. 227

Please show credible evidence Romney has changed his opinion on "global warming" then I'll think of of voting for someone else.

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

If the word "pseudo" gets used one more time in this thread, I get a carbon credit.

Gil Bailie
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Gil Bailie

Keep the heat on. Quin Hillyer has a great post-debate piece at American Spectator:

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/10/14/without-visuals-a-different-im/print

jetstream
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Pseudodionysius: If the word "pseudo" gets used one more time in this thread, I get a carbon credit. · Oct 15 at 3:51p

Carbon credit?  That will have to be a pseudo-credit, only exchangeable for one unit of pseudo-warming.

David Williamson
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Pseudodionysius: If the word "pseudo" gets used one more time in this thread, I get a carbon credit. · Oct 15 at 3:51pm

There ya go.

One of the main reasons why I support Mr Cain, rather than the Rino--squish Mr Romney. 


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