Ricochet Podcast #95: A Pre-Revolutionary Moment
We don't have many Democrats on the podcast, so when we do, we try to make sure they're memorable. So pull up your earbuds and get comfortable for a bracing conversation with Pat Caddell, who thinks not only Obama ought to forgo running so Hillary can step in and win, but that this idea might actually foment a revolutionary moment in American history. Note: Apologies for the lo-fi sound. It's the first show recorded on a new laptop and it shows.
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Music from this week's episode:
- This Is Why We Fight by The Decemberists
- Revolution 1 by The Beatles
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Dec '10
Re: Ricochet Podcast #95: A Pre-Revolutionary Moment
Someone asked earlier in the week if there were any lefties we'd like to meet, and Pat Caddell is the one I'd like to get a cup of coffee with. He's one of the very few democrats that seem like genuinely nice folks.
Feb '11
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Since the quote function doesn't work on the iPad I would like to agree with you King Prawn; anyone (especially a democrat) who demands we think as Americans, not on party lines, is a breath of fresh air.
May '10
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Pre-revolutionary Caddell
Edited on November 26, 2011 at 12:49amJun '11
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Caddell reminds me of my dad, a JFK Democrat for whom country comes first.
Also, thanks to Peter, Rob, and James for recording this edition. It kept me company while I worked off that turkey in the brush and leaf piles!
Apr '11
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Couldn't agree more. Pat may not share my opinion on government's role in one's life, but I respect his decency and polite conviction.
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God Bless Pat Caddell.
I hail from a predominantly blue-collar family with roots in Chicago and industrial New Jersey. Pat reminds me of my Democrat relatives: a patriot first, pro-free enterprise, pro-opportunity and, yes, favoring more liberal policies than me. But not interested in fundamentally transforming anything.
I hope he succeeds in taking his party back from the Elitist-in-Chief.
Dec '10
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Just awfull. Yes the audio quality, but also the seriousness with which a HR Clinton candidacy was bantered about, (Lileks having been exceptional in his abandonment of the detachment from reality).
Loving the idea of a primary challenge to Obama is not the same as considering the dire prospect of another staunch leftist occupying the White House. Cadell's description of HR Clinton as a centrist liberal is floor-bouncing. This is not Obama, the mere dupe of leftists and follower of Alinsky, but the advocate for and employee of Alinsky.
Just because she is a wiser radical leftist than the Current Occupant is no reason for us to accept that the people Rob describes as "moderate Republicans" would welcome her entry into the race. We have our evident disaster, in the White House, now. The potential that the White House might be shifted over to a more careful and cunning radical leftist should cause all Americans, Democrat, Republican, or independent, to rue the dawn.
Anybody that describes themself as a moderate Republican, or a centrist independent, that would consider voting for HR Clinton has no political seriousness.
Apr '11
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You mis-spelled "awful."
Jun '10
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Does anyone know which poll Mr. Caddell was referring to about 35 minutes in?
Oct '10
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CJRun: Loving the idea of a primary challenge to Obama is not the same as considering the dire prospect of another staunch leftist occupying the White House. Cadell's description of HR Clinton as a centrist liberal is floor-bouncing. This is not Obama, the mere dupe of leftists and follower of Alinsky, but the advocate for and employee of Alinsky.
Anybody that describes themself as a moderate Republican, or a centrist independent, that would consider voting for HR Clinton has no political seriousness. · Nov 25 at 4:27pm
My take is that HRC would provide the foil against O's campaign plans. I doubt that any of the regulars, Rob, Peter or James were showing enthusiasm for HRC, but rather her potential to defeat O's planned scorched earth campaign. A bit of fantasy thinking about HRC's possible administration, but no enthusiasm for it.
Let's face it, Pat Cadell is using his influence where it can be felt... among the Democrat party.
Of course, if the best the GOP can do is McRomney, then HRC could be a real backfire.
God Help Us.
Aug '10
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I listened to this podcast, then I read about the impending collapse of the Eurozone, and then Mark Steyn's new column.
Well, safe to say I'm depressed. Good night.
Apr '11
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Of course, if the best the GOP can do is McRomney, then HRC could be a real backfire.
God Help Us.
The same thought occurred to me, or at least the question formed itself in my mind: how would the Republican nominee (presumably Romney) do against Hillary? It was not a reassuring question.
OTOH, if it looked like Hillary was going to be the Democrat nominee, would that alter who Republicans chose as their standard bearer?
Apr '11
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Ricochet needs emoticons and the strike-through tool. I'm uncertain if you meant this as japery, since you
1. siezed on the trivial.
2. misspelled (mispunctuated) "mis-spelled". (And now I'm wondering if I've mis-punctuated "mispunctuated.")
Please clear this up immediately! :-)
(I've seen strike-through both with and without the hyphen. But its utility as a tool for the occasions when I need to edit a post seems, to me, to make it irreplaceable.)
Dec '10
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It's one thing to revel in the chaos that a recruit Hillary movement would cause on the Left; it's quite another to imagine a President Hillary.
Edited on November 26, 2011 at 3:56pmPat Cadell rattled off a list of Hillary's supposed virtues and accomplishments, and they went completely unchallenged. I'll grant that she is smarter than Barack Obama, but so is my left shoe. Her only real record is as Sec. of State, which is an unmitigated disaster.
If Hillary were to somehow become the 2012 candidate, I don't doubt for a minute that her chance of winning would be much better than Barack Obama's. As for America, her presidency would seal our demise, just as surely as would Barack Obama's. (Don't believe me, read Mark Steyn's "After America"!)
Obama and Hillary are both radical Leftists, and anyone who doesn't believe this is either sorely uninformed, or suffering a bad case of amnesia.
I did, however, thoroughly enjoy Pat's lashing of Barack Obama. I wish we had a Republican candidate who would display half his righteous indignation.
Jan '11
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Vuvuzela: ...
Pat Cadell rattled off a list of Hillary's supposed virtues and accomplishments, and they went completely unchallenged.
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Mark Steyn has been absent too long from these podcasts.
Peter Robinson, you're the most gracious of men, I respect your words. BUT you sounded a bit too joyous over the prospect of kicking the can down the road another 10 years.
Rob, how do you know so much? Has there anywhere you have not visited? Yet I thought I heard you suggest we needed a revenue solution. So have we given up on cutting spending? Our best hope is to streamline the tax code in exchange for a tax increase? Enjoy your crabs.
Mar '11
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Does Pat Cadell ever stop talking? I understand he's passionate about the misdirection of his party but let the others get a word in edge-wise. He's the same way on Fox. By the way, the last thing we want is for the Democrats to put up a more electable candidate so please don't encourage the idea.
Mar '11
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James Lileks seemed to sum up the podcast very well when he suggested that there was more enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton from Rob and Peter than there was for Romney. I'm pretty sure that isn't really true but one could be excused for getting that impression. In previous podcasts the theme was that Romney couldn't rise about 25% because what Republicans are looking for is bold change and a passionate spokesman for conservative ideals. So what is the solution? Hillary Clinton. I'm more confused than ever.
Apr '11
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Maybe we could get one of the principals of this podcast to comment on all of the above comments, more or less summarized here:
1. The sound sucked.
2. Pat Caddell talks without a break and was not or cannot be moderated.
3. Pat Caddell is a booster for Hillary Clinton, and the reason the Ricochet podcast should be going on at length about this is _______? (We're going to be for the Republicans at election time, right?)
Apr '11
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Mar '11
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Since Rob thinks Baltimore is in Delmarva, then I understand why he thinks Hillary is a Republican.