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Our old friend and political strategist extraordinaire Mike Murphy joins us to parse the Presidential race in minute detail (Romney fans, you'll delight as Murphy argues to Robinson that Mitt really is the best choice), and Rob Long gives us an inside look at the machinations of getting a pilot picked up. Turns out it is very similar to getting a candidate elected. Apologies in advance for the intermittent audio issues on this week's show.

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St. Salieri
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St. Salieri

Umm...this seems to be last week's podcast...or am I going mad?

David Williamson
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David Williamson

What a surprise - Mr Murphy is a Romney fan.

Yeah...ok.
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Yeah...ok.

Nice job without James.

Mike Murphy sure is smart.

I didn't know political consulting was the first paid profession, I always thought the oldest profession was some other activity.


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BThompson

Umm, what are those elephants doing in that picture EJ?


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James Of England

A wonderful podcast. One small note: this was the first time I've seen Peter Robinson shout down an interviewee. Twice on Mike's claim that he knew the details of Mitt's history, and that Mitt hadn't been inconsistent, Peter said, essentially, that he'd seen the highlights video from '94, and that this was incontestable proof. Fact, not opinion, as he saw it. Mike initially tried to make his case, but heard the passion in Peter's voice, and moved on.

I've long had a few thousand words written up on Mitt's words about Reagan, the thing that offended Peter, but haven't been able to iron out the bits that I'm not sure about. It's hard to get good information on Mitt in the '70s beyond what's in the biographies and Mitt's books and I want to get it right (particularly since it's a kind of incendiary topic). If I can't get it out, turn out to be wrong, or leave Peter unmoved, I'd really appreciate a commitment to let Mike make that case the next time he comes on. He's genuinely unusually knowledgeable about it.

Dan
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Dan

Quite a good podcast.  I just have one quibble with what Mike Murphy was talking about.  While I have no doubt that Massachusetts is a heavily Democratic state, Romney's election as governor was the Republican's fourth straight win for that office, William Weld and Paul Cellucci having won throughout the 90's.

I admit to not knowing too much about this subject other than glancing at a couple Wikipedia articles, so I'm eager to hear Murphy's response.

Roberto
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Roberto

Yeah...ok.: Nice job without James.

Mike Murphy sure is smart.

I didn't know political consulting was the first paid profession, I always thought the oldest profession was some other activity. · Nov 16 at 6:09pm

I imagine the two are more closely related than is generally credited. 

Roberto
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Roberto

Mr. EJHill, I do believe you have topped yourself. I'm not sure how you can impress me after this effort.

Leslie Watkins
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Leslie Watkins

Since I've been very critical of Mike Murphy's commentary in previous podcasts I think it's only fair to say that I really liked listening to what he had to say and how he said it in this one. Very enjoyable. And informative. I do have a question, though. I keep hearing that the country is center-right politically. Yet Mike Murphy says, and others have also said, that the electorate is getting bluer. How do those two points jibe?

Leslie Watkins
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Leslie Watkins

Totally!

Roberto: Mr. EJHill, I do believe you have topped yourself. I'm not sure how you can impress me after this effort. · Nov 16 at 6:54pm
Mendel
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Mendel
James Of England: this was the first time I've seen Peter Robinson shout down an interviewee. Twice on Mike's claim that he knew the details of Mitt's history, and that Mitt hadn't been inconsistent, Peter said, essentially, that he'd seen the highlights video from '94, and that this was incontestable proof. Fact, not opinion, as he saw it. Mike initially tried to make his case, but heard the passion in Peter's voice, and moved on.

I re-listened to this part and must say it was Murphy's weakest moment.  While Peter did cut in several times, Mike Murphy did have time to respond (probably more time than he gets on Face the Nation), and his responses to Romney's flip-flopping were:

1) Everyone does it, even Obama, so why are we singling out Romney? 

2) So are you going to vote for or against Romney on Election Day?

Not exactly a stellar defense of his guy.

Roberto
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Roberto
Leslie Watkins:  I keep hearing that the country is center-right politically. Yet Mike Murphy says, and others have also said, that the electorate is getting bluer. How do those two points jibe? · Nov 16 at 7:00pm

Demographics. The hispanic population continues to increase and the casually accepted assumption is that absent gross pandering such voters will all float to the Democratic base. 

Thus as a voter of hispanic heritage I feel completely justified in despising cowards such as Mr. Murphy who refuse to make honest arguments for conservative positions and continue to insist that emulating the disgusting race pandering efforts of Democrats is the only way forward.

Mr. Murphy is indeed intelligent, but so was Machiavelli and I have no respect for him either. 

Michael Tee
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Michael Tee
David Williamson: What a surprise - Mr Murphy is a Romney fan. · Nov 16 at 6:06pm

Do you know he was a consultant to Romney until 2006? Was that disclosed? He was also an advisor to McCain. He couldn't choose between these stalwarts of conservatism so he recused himself.

Right. To put it in SAT analogy form:

Murphy is to conservatism as Romney is to conservatism.

Why are we talking to Mike Murphy? The guy has done more to damage the conservative brand since Nixon, who is wrongfully considered conservative by the liberal media. Whitman. Schwarzenegger. McCain. Lamar. Romney. Not conservative icons to say the least. Political winners in some cases that turned about to be American Losers in all cases.

Ricochet would do well do find other guests.

Political strategist extraordinaire, indeed.

You give me a year and I'd drink his milkshake.

Mark Wilson
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Mark Wilson
St. Salieri: Umm...this seems to be last week's podcast...or am I going mad? · Nov 16 at 6:02pm

Yes, it's last week's.  Not sure how everyone else is getting the new one.


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James Of England

Mendel

James Of England

I re-listened to this part and must say it was Murphy's weakest moment.  While Peter did cut in several times, Mike Murphy did have time to respond (probably more time than he gets on Face the Nation), and his responses to Romney's flip-flopping were:

[terrible responses]

Not exactly a stellar defense of his guy. ·

I agree. He was going to give a considered view, but when he became defensive he could only yelp pathetically. It's very clear that he has been coaching people for debates, not taking part. I don't think it's because he didn't have time so much as he seemed overly averse to challenging Peter straight on. It's not that Peter was rude, but that his passion showed through.

To Peter, the 1994 youtube video really does seem the last word. Defenses of Mitt's character, or pointing out that he's been more consistent on policies than, eg, Perry or Newt isn't just something he disagrees with, it's dishonest. Murphy essentially fled the topic, with some parting shots that he should be embarrassed about, and probably is.


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James Of England

Mark Wilson

St. Salieri: Umm...this seems to be last week's podcast...or am I going mad? · Nov 16 at 6:02pm

Yes, it's last week's.  Not sure how everyone else is getting the new one. · Nov 16 at 8:13pm

iTunes.

The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

Mark Wilson

St. Salieri: Umm...this seems to be last week's podcast...or am I going mad? · Nov 16 at 6:02pm

Yes, it's last week's.  Not sure how everyone else is getting the new one. · Nov 16 at 8:13pm

Right side of the main page.

Goddess of Discord
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Goddess of Discord

This week's podcast is not on itunes yet, so it can't be put on the ipod. So much for my entertainment while on the elliptical tomorrow. Looks like you can listen on your computer, but my sound card went out. 

EJHill
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EJHill

Thank you for the compliments.

BThompson: Umm, what are those elephants doing in that picture EJ?

It depends, BT... When was the last time you took a Rorschach test? (Remember, no matter what the Shrink says, he's still guy with the big collection of dirty pictures.)

As for Mr. Murphy, if you're new around here I would direct you (modestly) to a post I made last July, There's Something About Michael. Something that I wrote there, Mr. Murphy admits to now - that he loves the professionalization of politics. He loves the elitism, especially once he became one of them.

Edited on Nov 16, 2011 at 9:16pm
Yeah...ok.
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Yeah...ok.

When do we get to hear of Rob's casting couch on the pilot?

I'm sure there is an easy transition with this topic, isn't Washington called Hollywood for ugly people. Why did some companies get bailed out, which got waivers, who hires Chelsea, etc? Rob did suggest that politicians (well - their consultants) do a much more thorough job of market research, i.e. manipulation of their intended audience.


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