Blue Yeti · February 16, 2012 at 10:07pm
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Professors Victor Davis Hanson and Paul Rahe join us for a spirited discussion on the politics of religion and conservatism, Greece, and what it's like to be a close, personal, friend of El Rushbo. Also, Peter's up close and personal encounter with Newt, Rob's new TV show, and James watches a silent movie but complains about the sound. Listen up!

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Douglas
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Terry

Everyone on this podcast lives in a state that hasn't been carried by a Republican in a Presidential election since 1988.  Living in CA (especially) makes it hard to believe that R's can win-- even against a failure like Obama.  Meanwhile, in reliably Republican states, it's hard to believe that pundit-class Republican's think nominating a moderate (again!) will lead to success. · 40 minutes ago

I hadn't considered that, the California angle. You make a pretty good point. I imagine it's a lot like living in New York or DC as well. Even if you're a right winger, your surroundings color your view.

Leigh
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Terry

Everyone on this podcast lives in a state that hasn't been carried by a Republican in a Presidential election since 1988.  Living in CA (especially) makes it hard to believe that R's can win-- even against a failure like Obama.  Meanwhile, in reliably Republican states, it's hard to believe that pundit-class Republican's think nominating a moderate (again!) will lead to success. · 40 minutes ago

Having lived in both kinds of places, I think there is a great deal of truth in this.

anon_academic
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anon_academic

I just had a mental image of VDH and Santorum reenacting The Godfather scene where Johnny Fontaine is blubbering and Vito slaps him and says "You can act like a man!"


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Noesis Noeseos

Grendel

Noesis Noeseos: 

Philosophy thinks through the concept, so its language is ... intellectual; it regards the image-filled μύθοι of tradition as metaphors that convey truths in picture-language.

Why don't y'all talk Yewnited States, fer Pete's sake, 'stead a starkly intellectual philosophy fol-der-ol?

More to the point, Google Translate recognizes μύθος == myth, but just transliterates μύθοι.  What is μύθοι?

I usually see Hegel cited as the source of the idea of historical progress, not only that history has an essence, but that history changes the natureof things...  That is the... ground for Wilson's progressive claim that the cautions the Founders wrote into the Constitution are no longer needed. · 3 hours ago

I am a free American citizen.  I'll write as I like, thank you. 

Hegel did not posit history as a disembodied force.  We each participate in its making.  Of course, stronger personalities, especially if they are in positions of power, have more effect.

You would be able to assess Hegel's ideas more accurately if you read his works instead of relying on citations from authors who have their own agendas.  There are many excellent English translations, but they require some presence of mind.


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Noesis Noeseos

Noesis Noeseos

Grendel

More to the point, Google Translate recognizes μύθος == myth, but just transliterates μύθοι.  What is μύθοι?

It is the plural form.  You just might notice that the grammar of the sentence requires it.  Liddel and Scott and Smyth are much better sources than Google, I assure you.

Incidentally, The Philosophy of Right elaborates the ideas of the State and of history more fully than The Philosophy of History.  The Hillsdale course would do well to include the former work, so that advanced students can more accurately appreciate Hegel's political thought.

James Of England
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Noesis Noeseos

Noesis Noeseos

Grendel

More to the point, Google Translate recognizes μύθος == myth, but just transliterates μύθοι.  What is μύθοι?

It is the plural form.  You just might notice that the grammar of the sentence requires it.  Liddel and Scott and Smyth are much better sources than Google, I assure you.

Incidentally, The Philosophy of Rightelaborates the ideas of the State and of history more fully than The Philosophy of History.  The Hillsdale course would do well to include the former work, so that advanced students can more accurately appreciate Hegel's political thought. · 1 minute ago

I am kind of shocked that google translate doesn't automatically include all forms of the regular nouns it knows. This suggests an incredibly clumsy way of inputting the data, possibly explaining why such a common word is still not translated.


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Noesis Noeseos

James Of England

I am kind of shocked that google translate doesn't automatically include all forms of the regular nouns it knows. This suggests an incredibly clumsy way of inputting the data, possibly explaining why such a common word is still not translated. · 10 minutes ago

The Greek-English lexicon and the Grammar I mentioned are online at Perseus Digital Library.  Follow the "Collections/Texts" tab.

Edited on February 18, 2012 at 12:05am
Tom Westberg
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"Progressivism like Communism, like Nazism, and like Fascism is a kind of substitute for Christianity..." - Prof. Rahe

This is not the sort of rhetoric that is going to move any but those already committed. Even if the statement is true about all four isms, the pesky association of genocide with a few of them sort of overshadows the point.

Or was that the point?

Tom Meyer
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Tom Meyer

Dr. Rahe, starting at approximately 53' 30" you said:

Look, they're going to ask him about contraception.  I guarantee it.  And what he should say is "That's the stupidest question I've ever heard.  The President of the United States does not determined whether people have access to contraception or not.  The real question is religious liberty."

Senator Santorum cannot make this because -- as recently as October -- he was begging to talk more about the subject and promised to keep doing so as president:

One of the things I will talk about that no president has talked about before is I think the dangers of contraception in this country, the whole sexual libertine idea … Many in the Christian faith have said, “Well, that’s okay … contraception’s okay...  It’s not okay because it’s a license to do things in the sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be. They’re supposed to be within marriage, for purposes that are, yes, conjugal … but also procreative.

This is little different from liberals calling for a national conversation on race and then bowing out and naming calling the moment they start to lose.

Tom Meyer
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Tom Meyer

Full video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KN7WfIZh690


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