Return on Investment for Carbon Caps? A Cooler Planet a Millennium from Now
A tip of the hat to Australia's new Climate Commissioner for honesty. But not for much else. From the DC Examiner:
Tim Flannery, a zoologist and author of an acclaimed 2005 book on climage change, “The Weather Makers,” compares skeptics of global warming to “flat Earth believers.” But he made a point that most global warming alarmists gloss over when he threw down this lightning bolt in an interview with Macquarie Radio’s Andrew Bolt:
“If we cut emissions today, global temperatures are not likely to drop for about a thousand years.”
That’s not just in Australia, mind you. That’s cutting emissions worldwide.
Under continued questioning by Bolt, Flannery said: “Just let me finish and say this: If the world as a whole cut all emissions tomorrow the average temperature of the planet is not going to drop in several hundred years, perhaps as much as a thousand years because the system is overburdened with CO2 that has to be absorbed and that only happens slowly.”
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Oct '10
Re: Return on Investment for Carbon Caps? A Cooler Planet a Millennium from Now
Meanwhile, let's all jump into the latest and greatest international ponzi scheme and create a new financial bubble! Someone will make a lot of money; but it won't be you and me.
Dec '10
Re: Return on Investment for Carbon Caps? A Cooler Planet a Millennium from Now
It is March 26 and in Iowa it is 35 degrees Farenheit.
I want global warming. I want it now and I am against anybody who tries to stop it.
Imagine a building made from 10000 square feet of screen, except for a 2 foot by 2 foot piece of glass. The "greenhouse effect" from that piece of glass is a good metaphor for the greenhouse effect from CO2.
Carbon dioxide is 0.039% of the atmosphere. That's it. It's a 2 foot by 2 foot piece of glass in a 100 foot by 100 foot structure.
Re: Return on Investment for Carbon Caps? A Cooler Planet a Millennium from Now
Amish,
Your remark reminds me of the old bit Drew Carey did in his stand-up show:
[mimics spraying aerosol can into the air for an extended period of time]
"Screw the grandkids, I'm cold now!"
AmishDude: It is March 26 and in Iowa it is 35 degrees Farenheit.
I want global warming. I want it now and I am against anybody who tries to stop it.
Dec '10
Re: Return on Investment for Carbon Caps? A Cooler Planet a Millennium from Now
The hilarious part about the CO2-phobia is that amongst gases thought to be Greenhouse Gases, it's still a minor contributor. Water vapor would have a much greater effect. So if we bought the theory in the first place, we should be regulating the emission of steam. Forget about burning fossil fuels and go after any activity that involves bioling water. Laundromats are environmental disasters! Campbells Soup Company is a climate criminal! Outlaw hot tubs! Starbucks boils water to make coffee and kills polar bears! Ramen-eatng vegetarians are Gaia-roasters!
Sep '10
Re: Return on Investment for Carbon Caps? A Cooler Planet a Millennium from Now
I would refer anyone who cares to the IPCC Fourth Action Report (links below)
The Summary for Policymakers says in figure 5 what the IPCC believes will happen during the next century if CO2 levels continue to increase or if we cut them back to year 2000 levels. What you will notice is that the IPCC believes that if we were to have kept to year 2000 levels then the rise in temperature during the next century would only be about 0.2 degrees C. That is to say the temperature does not go down but rises very, very slowly.
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/syr/ar4_syr_spm.pdf
Here is the link to the graph itself
http://www.ipcc.ch/graphics/syr/spm5.jpg
I don't think that global warming is worth fixing, if it is a problem at all. But that being said, this guy is just parroting the view that the IPCC has. In 10 or 20 more years we will have accumulated enough satellite data to see if the global warming scientists have any predictive ability at all. I suspect we will find they do not.
Sep '10
Re: Return on Investment for Carbon Caps? A Cooler Planet a Millennium from Now
And one more thing.
His estimate of a several hundred years to a thousand years seems like a pretty typical of the exceptionally large error bounds in global warming.
Dec '10
Re: Return on Investment for Carbon Caps? A Cooler Planet a Millennium from Now
And Flannery is being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by the Australian government to bloviate about the need for a carbon tax to stop global warming. So he's now got a huge vested interest in promoting the belief in AGW.
Oct '10
Re: Return on Investment for Carbon Caps? A Cooler Planet a Millennium from Now
Yes, and this is how the "confidence game" works: Create in illusion of wealth creation and induce the various players in the game to act in their self interest pumping a lot of money in to the system, all the while manipulating the players in such a way as to have some of them (the ones "in the know") get out before the bubble bursts. The Federal Reserve and the World Bank have it down to a science!