Blue Yeti · February 12, 2012 at 8:43pm
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Broadcasting from an undisclosed location in deep in occupied Europe, James Delingpole welcomes guest (and Ricochet guest contributor) Tim Stanley reporting from CPAC.  They discusses Stanley's new book The Crusader: The Life and Tumultuous Times of Pat Buchanan,  debate why many gays are conservative, James laments not getting an invite to CPAC, and Stanley explains the finer points living as an Englishman in Los Angeles. Get your own damn glass of water, Limey. 

Note: we struggled with some issues with Mr. Delingpole's mic while recording this show. We'll have it fixed by the next one. 

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Noesis Noeseos

Wrong on allowing the reelecting Obama.  If he should get his hands on even just one more supreme court nomination, it's all over.

Romney is despicable, but he would have to respond to conservatives on judicial nominations.

Edited on February 12, 2012 at 9:55pm
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Severely Ltd.

Great podcast, I really enjoy hearing about U.S. politics as seen through a British lens.

Lucy Pevensie
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Lucy Pevensie

Noesis Noeseos: Wrong on allowing the reelecting Obama.  If he should get his hands on even just one more supreme court nomination, it's all over.

Edited 6 hours ago

I was really glad to see Mr. Delingpole at least entertaining the notion. I do think his argument on re-electing Obama at least needs to be analyzed and not dismissed out of hand.  Sure, I get it about the Court.  But Leslie Watkins on another thread pointed out that the Supreme Court seats that are likely to open up are already those that are part of the Court's liberal bloc.  

I think we really need to weigh in earnest the relative disadvantages of 8 years of Romney and 4 more years of Obama.  8 years of Obama would thoroughly discredit liberalism for at least a generation. 8 years of Romney might do the same to conservatism, and that unfairly, because conservatism would be blamed for his failures, which would not be conservative in the slightest.  

We are already paying the price for electing GWB, whose big-spending "conservatism" managed to tar the Republican brand. Can we really afford to do the same thing again?  


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Noesis Noeseos

Lucy Pevensie

I think we really need to weigh in earnest the relative disadvantages of 8 years of Romney and 4 more years of Obama.  8 years of Obama would thoroughly discredit liberalism for at least a generation. 8 years of Romney might do the same to conservatism, and that unfairly, because conservatism would be blamed for his failures, which would not be conservative in the slightest.  

 · 2 hours ago

Given how Obama is bypassing Congress and ruling through the executive branch, I think you are playing with fire.   The situation is combustible now, just what do you think will happen when Obama's ego is puffed up even higher with re-election?

Sure, Ginsburg and Breyer are old, but so are Thomas, Scalia, and Kennedy.  Unless we have conservative Republicans => 60 in the Senate, nothing could stop Obama from packing the high court and the several lower with the looniest of anti-constitutionalists.  The effects of that coup d'etat will last more like 25 years than four.

I really don't want to go there.  I don't want to spend my final years watching this country sink into the slough of European socialism.

Edited on February 13, 2012 at 5:56am
David Williamson
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David Williamson

Didn't Toby Young already point out to James a coupla podcasts ago that 4 more years of Obama would destroy the Republic beyond repair?

Oh, dear, I'm not sure I can take this - I don't wanna throw my Iphone down in disgust. But Tim Stanley is one of the best commentators on the US election,  so I'll maybe take the risk.

Lucy Pevensie
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Lucy Pevensie

David Williamson: Didn't Toby Young already point out to James a coupla podcasts ago that 4 more years of Obama would destroy the Republic beyond repair?

Oh, dear, I'm not sure I can take this - I don't wanna throw my Iphone down in disgust. But Tim Stanley is one of the best commentators on the US election,  so I'll maybe take the risk. · 3 hours ago

Oh, don't be put off by this conversation.  This was only a small aside; you can easily feel violently opposed to this idea and still find the podcast  entertaining and enlightening.


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mfgcbot

Another great podcast and another great guest, Mr. Delingpole.  Thanks for doing this.

I agree with Noesis Noesos.  We cannot risk another four years of Obama hoping that the "right" candidate will come along in 2016 (and we are assuming that this candidate will win). 

We will be hoping that a (hopefully) Republican Senate and a (hopefully) Republican House will restrain Obama knowing that his lame-duck status will not.  We will be hoping that any further Supreme Court nominees will replace judges to the left of Anthony Kennedy instead of those to his right.  Assuaging only these two concerns requires far too much hope and not nearly enough change. 

Perhaps most important, though, is the pressing need for a president who will fight to repeal Obamacare.  So much of the election-focused commentary here at Ricochet, and among conservatives in general, involves vetting our candidates to determine who is best suited to this task.  A second Obama term ensures that Obamacare becomes further entrenched and difficult to dismantle.  This is an outcome we cannot accept.


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Allan Trojan

I've never walked into someone's home

and before being offered anything

asked for a glass of mineral water with a touch of lime

but then I've never been in California, either.

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Diego Sun Devil

I've lived in San Diego for 17+ years now and it seems like people ask me if I want a drink or at least point me to the fridge, etc. without me having to ask.  Maybe L.A. is different.
The strangest thing I noticed upon moving to California was how flaky people were.  They couldn't make plans for the weekend before Friday, if even that, and people would buy their sporting event tickets on the spot often resulting in there being more people in the ticket lines than inside the venue at game time, which is a strange experience.


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Stephanie_T

I found it interesting that Mr. Delingpole and Mr.Stanley seemed to sing the praises of Alan West and Marco Rubio while suggesting that somehow the Conservative party is wrong for not encouraging more homosexuals into the party.   Both West and Rubio oppose gay marriage and the repeal of "dont ask, dont tell".   Delingpole and Stanley seem unable to grasp that this is a moral issue.   There is no room for compromise on such a matter, and perhaps Santorum's recent rise in the poll is indicative of his willingness to speak out on this and other attacks on religion in our society.     

Edited on February 16, 2012 at 6:29pm
Robert Dammers
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Robert Dammers

James, I was a bit concerned (I've been with Shell since 1979, and my father before since before the war) at the suggestion that Shell had bought a speaker at CPAC.  Shell really takes its General Business Principles seriously, and the bit about political activities of companies is really quite clear:

Shell companies act in a socially responsible manner within the laws of the countries in which we operate in pursuit of our legitimate commercial objectives.

Shell companies do not make payments to political parties, organizations or their representatives. Shell companies do not take part in party politics. However, when dealing with governments, Shell companies have the right and the responsibility to make our position known on any matters which affect us, our employees, our customers, our shareholders or local communities in a manner which is in accordance with our values and the Business Principles.

Thinking a bit further, though, the recently retired CEO of the US subsidiary, John Hofmeister, has set up a non-profit "Citizens for Affordable Energy", and I suspect that in this capacity he was addressing CPAC.  And I should hope he had a good word for the company he used to run!

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Steven Potter

Be careful telling people "Give me money". They may take that as an indication that you're robbing them.


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Tom Donohue
Robert Dammers: James, I was a bit concerned (I've been with Shell since 1979, and my father before since before the war) at the suggestion that Shell had bought a speaker at CPAC.  Shell really takes its General Business Principles seriously, and the bit about political activities of companies is really quite clear:

I think that he may have heard a speech about "shale" oil and possibly thought that the speaker was saying  "Shell" oil"....  maybe??

Edited on February 20, 2012 at 1:52pm
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Robert Dammers

Tom Donohue

I think that he may have heard a speech about "shale" oil and possibly thought that the speaker was saying  "Shell" oil"....  maybe?? · Feb 20 at 3:43am

Edited on Feb 20 at 4:52am

Could be.  It certainly warrants excitement, as James D. or Matt Ridley will tell anyone who will listen.  It means that there is an energy supply abundant enough to keep us going the few generations needed to approach alternatives like viable fusion.  And that means that we should have the capacity to address other, more pressing problems of humanity.


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