Rob Long · March 22, 2011 at 6:31pm

Obama supports offshore drilling.  In Brazil.  

More than supports it, actually. He's investing in it.  From the NYPost:

A Republican Senator from Louisiana has an interesting question for the Obama administration : Why are you financing offshore drilling in Brazil if there's a permitorium at home? David Vitter wants the administration -- specifically the Export-Import Bank -- to explain how and how much the US has benefitted from a $2 billion loan we gave Brazil for offshore drilling. “I am sure you can understand the frustration Louisianans have with a $2 billion loan to produce energy offshore Brazil,” Vitter wrote to [Export-Import Presient Fred] Hochberg – especially given the “ongoing de facto moratorium” on deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

It's more tin-ear politics, of course, from this president.  But it's also a disturbing confirmation of his sorry world view.  From Investor's Business Daily:

Now, with a seven-year offshore drilling ban in effect off of both coasts, on Alaska's continental shelf and in much of the Gulf of Mexico — and a de facto moratorium covering the rest — Obama tells the Brazilians:

"We want to help you with the technology and support to develop these oil reserves safely. And when you're ready to start selling, we want to be one of your best customers."

We're energy "customers," according to this president.  Never, ever energy "producers."   In Obama world, America is incapable of producing and inventing and expanding and leading.   In Obama world, America is over.  He's President Kevorkian, here to slip some clear liquid into our IV tube and send the country into a deep sleep.  "It's for the best," he tells us.  "Your time is over."

I want a second opinion. 

Comments:


Kervinlee
Joined
May '10
Kervinlee

You want a second opinion? He's ugly, too.

Ed G.
Joined
Feb '11
Ed Gorz

And here we have an illustration of a big problem with "the public option" whether in health, oil, or anywhere: how can we be sure that the government won't use its power to rig the game - even against its own citizens?

Ottoman Umpire
Joined
May '10
Ottoman Umpire

Producing things... actually creating value.  It seems so beneath our President's conception of us. 

Cas Balicki
Joined
Jun '10
Cas Balicki

It is not commonly known, but the wells off the coast of Brazil will be sunk into deeper waters than the BP well that blew in the Gulf of Mexico. The CofC prevents me from waxing inelegantly on how much I despise this empty suit of a president. What gets me the angriest is that this buffoon doesn't have a clue about the long term harm he is doing to the most robust economy in the world, all in the name of what precisely? I suppose I should cool my jets here, because I am after all a Canadian. But it is the waste that rips me the most about Obama. He is wasting an entire country, and that impoverishes the world, which in turn cripples the good people can do. Like Canada's Pierre Elliot Trudeau, Obama is an economic illiterate masquerading as an intellectual, and that makes him dangerous. 


Joined
Mar '11
rosegarden sj dad

Liberals often don't worry about intellectual or ideological incoherence for this simple reason: *The most important thing is to be perceived as doing something for the Great Cause of International Social Justice.* It doesn't matter if it contradicts a previous position, doesn't matter if it is wasteful or poorly envisioned, heck it doesn't even matter if it works or not--the point is to create a world of non-stop action in which the Those Who Have Risen Above Conservative Fascism lead with a non-stop litany of corrective actions. So who cares of we buy energy from Brazil instead of producing it at home--it shows how we care about the Brazilians and care about environmental cares at home. Do the two contradict? Of course, but to paraphrase Whitman, I think: "I contain multitudes."

Songwriter
Joined
Aug '10
Songwriter

Cas wrote: The CofC prevents me from waxing inelegantly on how much I despise this empty suit of a president.

Cas - Aren't you coming down a little hard on empty suits? Surely, there are some perfectly nice empty suits out there that don't deserve to be associated with the President.


Joined
Feb '11
david foster

Obama and his core supporters are like third-generation heirs of a wealthy family. They have no understanding of or respect for what it took to create the fortune in the first place and they are spending it under the assumption that it will never run out.


Joined
Mar '11
Brian Richards

I think Rob is right about Obama, and I believe that most democrats view America in the same way.  We saw this earlier with the whole nukes are okay for the Iranians because its for peaceful purposes.  Yet America was not allowed to use nuclear technology to build more nuclear plants.

CoolHand
Joined
Dec '10
CoolHand

Rob, you're my kind of squish.

President Kevorkian indeed.

Well struck, sir.

Ken Sweeney
Joined
Oct '10
Ken Sweeney

In Obama’s future, the knowledge economy (aka Hollywood and Silicon Valley) will run on wind mills and unicorn poop.

In the future, we will all have health care and large public sector union pensions.

In the future, there will be no Foxnews or talk radio or freedom on the internet (Ricochet will be illegal).

In the future, we were promised jet packs!

Jonathan Matthew Gilbert
Joined
Jul '10
Jonathan Matthew Gilbert

I'm worried that the president is going to make Mitt Romney look like a man of conviction before this is over with...

Kenneth
Joined
Jul '10
Kenneth

I know this sounds like conspiracy theory, but Obama's interest in Petrobras began shortly after George Soros made a major investment.  

flownover
Joined
Aug '10
flownover
Kenneth: I know this sounds like conspiracy theory, but Obama's interest in Petrobras began shortly after George Soros made a major investment.   · Mar 22 at 2:43pm

Which I think, Kenneth ?, George Soros sold shortly thereafter when Petrobras went up, you imagine his long margin positions. Darned good stock though for a BRIC play.

This brings up another point for me, which is the length of the news cycle and whether it really is 3 weeks for most people. Has the president's dithering brought the media into line with his navigation system, I mean will they dither around waiting for him to point some direction out ,then run there with all keyboards blazing ? 

When Clinton did this, he would follow the polls and decide after the fact. Obama doesn't lead or follow, is this an interesting strategy or a psychological trait?

Inquiring minds want to know what to think !

Edited on March 22, 2011 at 10:55pm
Mark Belling Fan
Joined
Sep '10
Mark Belling Fan
rosegarden sj dad: Liberals often don't worry about intellectual or ideological incoherence for this simple reason: *The most important thing is to be perceived as doing something for the Great Cause of International Social Justice.* It doesn't matter if it contradicts a previous position, doesn't matter if it is wasteful or poorly envisioned, heck it doesn't even matter if it works or not--the point is to create a world of non-stop action in which the Those Who Have Risen Above Conservative Fascism lead with a non-stop litany of corrective actions.

GIBSON: And in each instance, when the [capital gains tax] rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.

So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?

OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4670271&page=3

People actually voted for this guy!

CJRun
Joined
Dec '10
CJRun

People assume this is Hamlet-behavior, when there is no evidence to support that.  Take the moratoria on drilling.  Obama/Browner didn't place a moratorium on, "...much of the Gulf", they placed one on the Eastern Gulf of Mexico, which is shallow and has poor resources in the way of liquid petroleum.  Shallow water, not much of an "oil spill" issue.  What they did is very carefully block access to approximately 15 trillion cubic feet of natural gas, available in shallow water.  They then removed all regulators that had previously been evaluating drilling prospects in the Eastern Gulf and dumped them on top of the already producing Central and Western Gulf, where the administration could not assert a moratoriaum.  They dumped all of the regulators onto the producing areas to purposely choke-off those areas.

If you doubt that, you don't have any concept of whom Carol Browner is.  I don't like crony capitalism but current policy is even worse; crony communism.  Browner (now "gone" from the administration), is a communist and a radical.  She was already under terrific fire from a populist, Democratic governor, here in Florida, before she got snatched from here by Clinton.

Matthew Osborn
Joined
Oct '10
Matthew Osborn

 I no longer believe Obama's actions have unintended consequences.

Sisyphus
Joined
Jul '10
Sisyphus

C'mon guys, only 595 days left until we fire Bambo and he flaps his ears and flies off to Neverneverland with that ever-expanding woman and her kids (next up, FDA decree permits only carrots and celery to be grown or sold in the United States, Popeyes announces new deep fat fried carrots and celery added to the menu).

C'mon guys, we can make it.

Edited on March 23, 2011 at 2:37am
flownover
Joined
Aug '10
flownover

Thanks Sis, now I feel a lot better talking to Big Bro. When he started dissin the prez, I was bummed. Now I realize he was jes' bracin th ummah.. Cool- inshallah.


Joined
Feb '11
Hang On

Rob,

Lots of the engineers developing the Brazilian oil fields are Americans. They're having a good time in Rio. I know several of them. And as Kenneth said, Soros is heavily involved in developing the Brazilian oil fields.

But this should be an "all of the above" option -- developing Brazilian oil fields and developing our own oil fields. I don't knock Obama for going to Brazil (or Chile or El Salvador) and talking about energy and commerce. It's high time an American President did that. I do knock him for not going to other countries in Latin America and dealing with trade, especially where we have trade agreements pending.

Policies under Obama are totally incoherent. Be that as it may, comparing him to Kevorkian is over the top.

Sisyphus
Joined
Jul '10
Sisyphus

Yes, Rob, completely over the top. Kevorkian hasn't killed nearly as many people as Obama, and he has a consistent philosophy with powerful humanitarian aspects and has been tried and judged for it, and served his time. And I am unaware of Kevorkian taking a South American vacation on the American tax payer's dime. Ever.

Not that I would accept a dinner invitation from either of them.


Would you like to comment on this Conversation?

Become a Member for $3.67 a month.

Join the Conversation
Already a member? Sign In
Loading

Start your shopping here!

Help support Ricochet by making your purchases through our Amazon links.

Welcome Visitor!
Join  or  Sign In

Become a Member to enjoy the full benefits of Ricochet:

Ricochet: The Right People, The Right Tone, The Right Place.  Join today!

Already a Member? Sign In