On the latest episode of the Young Guns podcast--which'll be ready for your consumption soon!--Keith Urbahn announced that his hero of the week is Peter Schiff.  Last week, Schiff dared to tread in hostile territory carrying a sign that read "I am the 1% Let's Talk."  The video below features some pretty wonderful highlights from his time in Manhattan's Zuccotti Park.

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Ethan Safron

Saw this last night. It was a lot of fun to watch- the lady he's talking to right now (before you click on it to play) reminded me of Elizabeth Warren.

I just hope that the people who call themselves libertarians go home afterwords and shower- and, for extra credit, at least try to get a job.

Edited on Oct 28, 2011 at 2:14pm
Aodhan
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Aodhan

Or a dictionary.

Ethan Safron
Aodhan: Or a dictionary. · Oct 28 at 2:15pm

Or a thesaurus. I'm tired of hearing the word "capitalism." For some reason it just seems a little juvenile to me (I know, I know, everyone uses it). I prefer the phrase "free market."

Diego Sun Devil
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Diego Sun Devil

I think the guy at around the 7:00 mark should yell a little more.  After he can't articulate his point past what he's been fed, his argument breaks down to "you're an idiot."  Ya, that about covers it.

Edited on Oct 28, 2011 at 2:57pm
Diego Sun Devil
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Diego Sun Devil

People love to point out the flaws of free-market capitalism, but in the end they don't have anything better to offer than spread the wealth.  Don't they realize that if you reduce the millionaire's income by 5%, you don't get 5% more revenue?  We really need to better job teaching our children basic economics.  Most of our fiscal problems would go away if people truly understood how money is created and flows through the economy/government.

HVTs
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HVTs
Diego Sun Devil: Most of our fiscal problems would go away if people truly understood how money is created and flows through the economy/government.

I think you must add one other ingredient to achieve fiscal discipline . . . skin in the game. When 47% of income earners pay no income tax, there's no natural brake on their desire for Government goodies or their support for higher taxes.  Everyone should pay something.

Kervinlee
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Kervinlee

These protestors are the product of our schools. If this is the top level of rhetorical discourse these people can muster, our country is doomed.

Aodhan
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Aodhan

Agreed.

They should also learn the free market, capitalism, and private enterprise are the opposite of corporatism, crony capitalism, and fascism.

Notice how ignorantly these protestors conflate both.

Now imagine someone conflated law-abiding Blacks with criminal blacks, and hated blacks wholesale as a result. Such racial bigotry would be reflexively condemned, and rightly so.

What these protestors exhibit is fiscal bigotry. Yet no one calls them on it.

It's sinful to stereotype and prejudge people on the basis of skin colour; yet it is virtuous to do so on the basis of income. The rich are hated wholesale, whether they are independently productive enterpreneurs (caplitalists) or parasites on state largesse (corporatists).

Ethan Safron

Aodhan: Or a dictionary. · Oct 28 at 2:15pm

Or a thesaurus. I'm tired of hearing the word "capitalism." For some reason it just seems a little juvenile to me (I know, I know, everyone uses it). I prefer the phrase "free market." · Oct 28 at 2:18pm

Jerry Broaddus
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Jerry Broaddus

I've been watching this video march down both sides of the page at hotair, but I had avoided watching it because of it's length. Thanks for posting it here. 

It was 18 minutes very well spent. 

Western Chauvinist
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Western Chauvinist

I admired Peter Schiff before I saw this.  Now he's my hero.  Not just for what he says, although that's all fine and good, but for having the courage and tenacity to engage these people on their own misconceptions.  There's a certain percentage, like the "I'm not greedy" guy and the lady who wants to "eliminate the Bush tax cuts" who are beyond hope, but I could see some of them listening and nodding as he spoke.  Give Schiff a megaphone and another hour or two down there and I think they'd elect him leader of their cause.

sawatdeeka
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sawatdeeka

 Glenn Beck played a clip of someone addressing the protesters yesterday. Is this the guy? Because if it is, Beck said that addressing them was "dangerous." I didn't get it. Why would Beck go on about it being dangerous to engage the protesters? Seems like intelligent engagement is potentially productive.

John Marzan
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John Marzan

downloading the video and converting it to an mp3 file.


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Anon
Kervinlee: These protestors are the product of our schools. If this is the top level of rhetorical discourse these people can muster, our country is doomed. · Oct 28 at 3:37pm

Sad, but true.  "Educators" have made our youth first ignorant, then stupid and it took only six or seven decades, a couple of generations.  It was a purposeful exercise, and so well and enthusiastically done that even the teachers can't notice the nonsense.  They have made a job they are totally unprepared to do seem to them worthwhile.

Yes, I know, there are plenty of good, effective, and successful teachers, but I can't help believing that they are too few to make a meaningful difference. If such were not in the tiny minority, education wouldn't be the failure it has become.  

Raw Prawn
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Raw Prawn

Ethan Safron

..... I'm tired of hearing the word "capitalism." For some reason it just seems a little juvenile to me (I know, I know, everyone uses it). I prefer the phrase "free market." · Oct 28 at 2:18pm

Did capitalism know it was capitalism before Marx named it?  It was just what worked.

Glenn the Iconoclast
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Glenn the Iconoclast
sawatdeeka:  Glenn Beck played a clip of someone addressing the protesters yesterday. Is this the guy? Because if it is, Beck said that addressing them was "dangerous." I didn't get it. Why would Beck go on about it being dangerous to engage the protesters? Seems like intelligent engagement is potentially productive. · Oct 28 at 8:15pm

"Intelligent engagement" is fine.  Exposing yourself to a mob is dangerous.

An aside: I know nothing about Thailand, but GI's with whom I was stationed would sometimes greet each other with (phonetically), "Sah wah dee, kuh"(?)", which I understood to mean, "Good morning, friend."  Is that related in some way to your screen name?  Just curious.  :-)

sawatdeeka
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sawatdeeka

Glenn the Iconoclast

 

"Intelligent engagement" is fine.  Exposing yourself to a mob is dangerous.

An aside: I know nothing about Thailand, but GI's with whom I was stationed would sometimes greet each other with (phonetically), "Sah wah dee, kuh"(?)", which I understood to mean, "Good morning, friend."  Is that related in some way to your screen name?  Just curious.  :-) · Oct 30 at 3:20am

Actually, men say, "sawatdee krap." It is a greeting, but I don't think there is anything about friend or morning in it. :-)   Thai women say, "sawatdee ka."

R. Craigen
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R. Craigen

That lady who can go on and on and seems not to respond to anything -- I've figured out what she's doing.  Anyone can do this.  Memorize a long list of slogans and platitudes, learn to recite them and practice doing this with circular breathing, so you don't have to pause to take a breath.  Of course, when you do so you have to concentrate so hard on what you're reciting that you don't hear a thing the other person is saying.  Schiff, in contrast, is amazing in the way he engages in these rapid-fire debates with both people talking at once, and responds intelligently as he goes to every point his opponent makes, while making his own. Brilliant.  Still, the arguments would be more fruitful and listenable if someone had a mute button and played traffic cop:  Ok you go.  Now you're done ... your turn. 


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