Peter Jackson's Hobbit: Trailer Released
Peter Jackson, who directed all three parts of the film The Lord of the Rings, is putting the finishing touches on The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. It is scheduled for release on 14 December 2012 and my children are already excited. Here is the first trailer:
This is something to look forward to.
If anyone knows Peter Jackson, please suggest that he consider doing Homer's Odyssey. It has been done many times and never well. To do it right would take three movies and the species of production values that went into The Lord of the Rings, and it would be a treasure for all times.
For those of you who have never listened to The Lord of the Rings on CD-ROM (36 discs), which is also available on CD-ROM, let me suggest the unabridged version by Rob Inglis.
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Mar '11
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I'd like someone to do a quality adaption of all the most important Greco-Roman stories that started with the Iliad and ended with The Aeneid. Several movies that start at Troy and end up in Rome.
BTW, did you see where geneticists had determined that there was a strong streak of West Turkish blood in middle Italians? Maybe the Aeneid wasn't just a founding myth, and had a kernel of truth to it.
May '10
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I'll second the endorsement of the Rob Inglis audio version. Even if you have read the book many times, this reading will open new aspects of the story. Perhaps the greatest difference is being forced to take in the story, and Tolkien's powerful prose, at a speaking pace. This is how great saga's should be experienced, savoring the language and imagery, with time to consider each event or statement. You won't regret it.
Nov '10
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Ken Owsley:
Second, I cannot in good conscience, as many of you have done, give Jackson any leeway on what he did to Faramir. Many of the inaccuracies in the films I could take, and put it down to needing to fit the story into the time frame. But not Faramir. It was wrong, period. I don't truck with no nonsense on that.
Whenever anyone starts talking about the "bad stuff" in the movies, this is the first, and often only, think I think of. Was not the a major point of his character to show how the ring is not absolutely corrupting, and how much a better man he was than his brother? The movie made him Boromir 2.0.
Nov '10
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Misthiocracy
Unlike the LotR trilogy, in which Peter Jackson was forced to cut out large parts of the books to fit them into the time restrictions of the movies, apparently The Hobbit is going in the other director, ADDING material that isn't in the book in order to make two movies. · Dec 22 at 6:17am
Oh, there's TWO movies...well then...ok.
Aug '10
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TheRoyalFamily
Ken Owsley:
Second, I cannot in good conscience, as many of you have done, give Jackson any leeway on what he did to Faramir. Many of the inaccuracies in the films I could take, and put it down to needing to fit the story into the time frame. But not Faramir. It was wrong, period. I don't truck with no nonsense on that.
Whenever anyone starts talking about the "bad stuff" in the movies, this is the first, and often only, think I think of. Was not the a major point of his character to show how the ring is not absolutely corrupting, and how much a better man he was than his brother? The movie made him Boromir 2.0. · Dec 22 at 11:14am
Is this true in the full, extended version that is only on DVD/Blu-Ray, or is it only true in the theatrical version?
I've still never had the guts to sit down and digest the extended version.
Jul '10
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Misthiocracy
TheRoyalFamily
Ken Owsley:
But not Faramir. It was wrong, period. I don't truck with no nonsense on that.
Whenever anyone starts talking about the "bad stuff" in the movies, this is the first, and often only, think I think of. Was not the a major point of his character to show how the ring is not absolutely corrupting, and how much a better man he was than his brother? The movie made him Boromir 2.0.
Is this true in the full, extended version that is only on DVD/Blu-Ray, or is it only true in the theatrical version?
I've still never had the guts to sit down and digest the extended version.
It's true in the sense that Faramir doesn't behave differently in the extended version.
I don't agree with the description of Faramir as Boromir 2.0, but there you are.
Once I watched all 3 extended versions in a row. Once.
Feb '11
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TheRoyalFamily
Ken Owsley:
Any changing of the characters was done to make them more flawed and less heroic than they are in the books. Aragorn moaning over whether or not Arwen should be into him, when that's really what he's been after for 60+ years. Elrond, who really loved Aragorn like a son, moaning about how his daughter couldn't marry her because she's an elf. Hello! He's Elrond Half-Elven because both his parents were children or grandchildren of human-elf marriages (and his great-great-grandmother was neither -- she was a Maia). His brother Elros is Aragorn's great-great-many-times-grandfather, 6,000 years or something ago. And if Arwen can't leave Middle-earth for the Undying Lands so she has to lay about and droop like a leaf in the autumn (Elrond says in the movie, "Not ship now exists to bear you hence" or some such drivel), then why are her grandparents, Galadriel and Celeborn, able to leave with her father and Gandalf (and Frodo and Bilbo)?
Jackson tampers with and waters down the fairytale truth of these stories for modernity's mixed-up-muddle-model of flawed humanity.
Jul '10
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And if Arwen can't leave Middle-earth for the Undying Lands so she has to lay about and droop like a leaf in the autumn (Elrond says in the movie, "Not ship now exists to bear you hence" or some such drivel), then why are her grandparents, Galadriel and Celeborn, able to leave with her father and Gandalf (and Frodo and Bilbo)?
She could leave, if she hadn't chosen to align herself with humanity like Elros. But she did, so she can't. If it's good for Luthien, it's good for Arwen.
Jackson tampers with and waters down the fairytale truth of these stories for modernity's mixed-up-muddle-model of flawed humanity.
I think that is a fair criticism.
Although I don't think Faramir's nobility was deliberately undermined. I believe it was meant to present a consistent picture of the ring, and it's allure. In the books it was easier to portray the ring breaking down Frodo over time. In a film you run the risk of viewers concluding that Frodo (and Galadriel! for that matter) are power-hungry weaklings if some dude who shows for a few scenes casually dismisses it.
Edited on Dec 22, 2011 at 7:50pmFeb '11
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Palaeologus:
She could leave, if she hadn't chosen to align herself with humanity like Elros. But she did, so she can't. If it's good for Luthien, it's good for Arwen.
Although I don't think Faramir's nobility was deliberately undermined. I believe it was meant to present a consistent picture of the ring, and it's allure. In the books it was easier to portray the ring breaking down Frodo over time.
Edited on Dec 22 at 07:50 pm
I understand that Arwen had chosen to stay and thus never board a ship. I know all about Luthien and Beren, and also Tuor and Idril. But why the false drama of "there is no ship now for you," when that drama doesn't even make sense?
And I also listened to the screenwriters Fran and Phillipa explaining their thinking behind changing Faramir's actions. I understand what they did. I just think that the filmmakers were happier to do it than they should have been. Peter Jackson explicitly stated that he wanted Aragorn and Gandalf specifically to be less heroic than Tolkien wrote them.
May '10
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Meh. The more of these movies Jackson makes, they more I'm convinced that they're far less adaptations of Tolkien than they are monuments to the director's ego.
Thorin Oakenshield, Durin's Heir of the Longbeards has a goatee and a Fu Manchu? Really?!?
Jan '12
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I don't think that the Iliad would lend itself to film in the usual sense. It would have to be a film of the poet narrating it.
But the Odyssey strikes me as perfect.
Mar '11
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punditius: .
But the Odyssey strikes me as perfect. · 19 hours ago
Ever see the one with Armand Assante? I liked it a lot. Very good for a TV movie.