Peter Jackson, who directed all three parts of the film The Lord of the Rings, is putting the finishing touches on The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. It is scheduled for release on 14 December 2012 and my children are already excited. Here is the first trailer:

This is something to look forward to.

If anyone knows Peter Jackson, please suggest that he consider doing Homer's Odyssey. It has been done many times and never well. To do it right would take three movies and the species of production values that went into The Lord of the Rings, and it would be a treasure for all times.

For those of you who have never listened to The Lord of the Rings on CD-ROM (36 discs), which is also available on CD-ROM, let me suggest the unabridged version by Rob Inglis.

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Skyler
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Skyler

Or the Iliad would be even better!

St. Salieri
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St. Salieri

Dear Dr. Rahe, 

What a capital suggestion, I also wish someone would make a serious film of the Iliad with the gods and goddesses intact and playing the roles they should.  It is interesting that Homer so fired the western artistic mind for so many centuries, think of all the sculpture, painting, drama, opera, etc., and yet the few modern attempts at conveying those stories via film have been so wanting.

Aaron Miller
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Aaron Miller

Thanks. I'll check out the Inglis CDs.

Don't forget the recordings of Tolkien himself. Sadly, that's just a collection of excerpts, and I don't own it yet. But here's a sample.

The Hobbit was by far my favorite story as a young kid. I watched the cartoon over and over. I hope Peter Jackson has an imposing vision of the goblins.

Percival
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Percival

This should be good.  I've been ignoring the progress on this film because I like to wait until something is about to actually be released before paying it much attention.

Samwise Gamgee
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Samwise Gamgee

If PJ tries to make a romance between an elf (maybe Galadriel) and Gandalf (see min 1:30 in the video above), I'm going to run out of the theater screaming.

Edited on Dec 21, 2011 at 8:07pm
Mama Toad
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Mama Toad
Samwise Gamgee: If PJ tries to make a romance between an elf (maybe Galadriel) Gandalf (see min 1:30 in the video above), I'm going to run out of the theater screaming. · Dec 21 at 7:23pm

I wondered the same thing. An internet search revealed these funny people wondering the same thing too, but coming up with some different dialogue that the scene could entail. Sample: "Galadriel: 'Gandalf the Grey. If only you would consider using Lady Clairol, you could be Gandalf the Blonde. It works for me.'"

Gandalf and Galadriel have a long history together, as ring-bearers etc. She wanted him to head the White Council, but that role went to Saruman. 

One of my biggest beefs with the LoTR movies was Gandalf's wussiness, e.g., when his staff shatters and he falls down before the Witch King on the walls of Minas Tirith. (I had lots of beefs, in spite of loving the movies, but that was perhaps the worst error.)

Samwise Gamgee
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Samwise Gamgee

Mama Toad

Samwise Gamgee: If PJ tries to make a romance between an elf (maybe Galadriel) and Gandalf (see min 1:30 in the video above), I'm going to run out of the theater screaming. · Dec 21 at 7:23pm

One of my biggest beefs with the LoTR movies was Gandalf's wussiness, e.g., when his staff shatters and he falls down before the Witch King on the walls of Minas Tirith. (I had lots of beefs, in spite of loving the movies, but that was perhaps the worst error.) · Dec 21 at 7:57pm

Yes, the whole Gandalf/Witch King extended scene was probably the second biggest tragedy of PJ's interpretation of LOTR.  The highest tragedy was his absolute butchering of Faramir.  HE'S A HERO, NOT A VILLIAN!

Anyway, overall I enjoyed the LOTR movies and I'll probably enjoy the Hobbit too (almost as much as I enjoy ale, food, and the smoking of pipe weed).

Mama Toad
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Mama Toad

Samwise Gamgee

Mama Toad

Samwise Gamgee: If PJ tries to make a romance between an elf (maybe Galadriel) and Gandalf (see min 1:30 in the video above), I'm going to run out of the theater screaming. · Dec 21 at 7:23pm

One of my biggest beefs with the LoTR movies was Gandalf's wussiness, e.g., when his staff shatters and he falls down before the Witch King on the walls of Minas Tirith. (I had lots of beefs, in spite of loving the movies, but that was perhaps the worst error.) · Dec 21 at 7:57pm

Yes, the whole Gandalf/Witch King extended scene was probably the second biggest tragedy of PJ's interpretation of LOTR.  The highest tragedy was his absolute butchering of Faramir.  HE'S A HERO, NOT A VILLIAN!

Anyway, overall I enjoyed the LOTR movies and I'll probably enjoy the Hobbit too (almost as much as I enjoy ale, food, and the smoking of pipe weed). · Dec 21 at 8:12pm

You are right. Even when Faramir was deciding to be good in the movie he was tossing Gollum around. Not cool, man.


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Palaeologus

Mama Toad

Samwise Gamgee: If PJ tries to make a romance between an elf (maybe Galadriel) Gandalf (see min 1:30 in the video above), I'm going to run out of the theater screaming. 

One of my biggest beefs with the LoTR movies was Gandalf's wussiness, e.g., when his staff shatters and he falls down before the Witch King on the walls of Minas Tirith. (I had lots of beefs, in spite of loving the movies, but that was perhaps the worst error.) 

I loved the films, but that scene drove me nuts.

The Faramir thing... I give a pass. Pete needed to emphasize the lure of the Ring, and Faramir ultimately came out on top.

Frankly, I had a bigger problem with Denethor's portrayal. A complicated, flawed man reduced to a cartoon.

Anywho, if Pete Jackson is going to take on a big, new project I'd suggest Colleen McCollough's First Man In Rome. 

He's the only director I can think of who would do Marius & Sulla justice.

Peter Gøthgen
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Peter Gøthgen
Yes, the whole Gandalf/Witch King extended scene was probably the second biggest tragedy of PJ's interpretation of LOTR.  The highest tragedy was his absolute butchering of Faramir.  HE'S A HERO, NOT A VILLIAN!

I can understand his reasoning behind it.  He felt that if someone were shown able to so easily resist the ring, as Faramir did, it would diminish the menace of the ring.  This is one of the sorts of decisions that you have to make when making a movie.

If I have one complaint about the movies (I've accepted the omission of Tom Bombadil), it's the amount of time spent in slow-motion staring.

Personally, I'm trying to figure out which ruins Gandalf is wandering about in.  Obviously, some shots are inside Moria, but I can't place the shots in the outside ruins.

David Williamson
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David Williamson

Thanks for the recommendation on the CDs.

I hope the Hobbits win in 2012 -- tis a forlorn hope, but that is the point of the book, I guess.

Byron Horatio
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Byron Horatio

I am so excited for this and gave me fond memories of my fanatical devotion to Lord of the Rings when it was in theaters.  I just looked over at my bookshelf with the "Atlas of Middle Earth," the Trilogy, the Hobbit, "Tolkien: A-Z" and more.  It looks phenomenal like all of Jackson's work.  Of all of Tolkien's books, the Hobbit was always my favorite, since it was a very upbeat work, and extremely humorous at points.  I can't wait to see Beorn, the half-bear, half-man, and of course the Battle of the Five Armies. 

Mama Toad
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Mama Toad

I am reading The Hobbit right now with the children. We've entered Mirkwood, Bombur has fallen in and woken up, and they have just LEFT THE PATH! I left off tonight right as Bilbo is about to encounter the spiders. I love reading Tolkien aloud, although Gollum always makes my throat/voice a little sore. Last year I had bronchitis for several months, and was reading The Two Towers out loud (this is the kind of bedtime reading the Tadpoles like) and could not do a decent Gollum, or even Treebeard without coughing for half an hour after reading. I got my then-11-year-old son to take over until I could recover.

Ken Owsley
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Ken Owsley

A few points:

I am definately looking forward to the Hobbit, with my breath held, waiting for the butchering.  I pray that he does it well.  I think there is a lot for one movie, and I have my opinions about what should, and should not, be left out.

Second, I cannot in good conscience, as many of you have done, give Jackson any leeway on what he did to Faramir.  Many of the inaccuracies in the films I could take, and put it down to needing to fit the story into the time frame.  But not Faramir.  It was wrong, period.  I don't truck with no nonsense on that.

Third, Rob Inglis' recordings of the LotR trilogy as well as the Hobbit are not to be passed up.  Simply fantastic.  if you are a fan and you do not have those recordings, then you just aren't a fan.

And that's all I have to say about that...as my first post after not being on for months...

Skyler
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Skyler

Faramir?  What about Aragorn?  I cringe every time he comes on screen with his head bowed and his girly voice.  And would it hurt for the future king to wash his hair, or even get a haircut?

The LoTR movies by Jackson were brilliant in many ways, but whoever did the screen play really messed up every time she deviated from Tolkein.

I mean, why, why, why did they have to do the stupid idiotic cliche of Frodo falling into Mt Doom and being caught one-handed by Sam?  This cliche is in every stupid movie I can think of.  It never works.  Not only wasn't it in the book, it's almost physically impossible.  

And worst of all was Sean Astin crying in every single scene.  

Not to mention Aragorn's pathetic speech at the gates of Mordor in his weasel voice.

But I did like it for the most part otherwise.

Crow's Nest
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Crow's Nest

This cliche is in every stupid movie I can think of.

Yes, I completely agree here. And Tolkien's writing is never cliched and hackneyed. 

I also liked LOTR for the most part, and therefore am looking forward to the Hobbit.

Valiuth
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Valiuth

Oh man I have gone down the path of complaining about the LOTR movies...I could write a small dissertation on the "errors". So I will not go down this path. Let us all admit this...these errors standout to fans of the books, so strongly because the general quality of the movies was so high and so close to the books. In fact the movies where better done and closer to the novel than I think any one of us ever thought such things could be. I'm excited to see the Hobbit. 

I agree the Odyssey of the Illiad done in the LOTR style would be impressive, I also think they will never be done because they are too long, and probably lack the nerd fan base, to guarantee profits... My personal wish is to move away from the pansy greek myths/ epics and go to where the real epics are. I want to see the Volsung Saga adapted into a movie, or Beowulf (this one has been done, but even more poorly than the Odyssey). 

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy

All of a sudden, I have a strong urge to get back into playing Dungeons and Dragons.

Maybe I can find a group of 30+ year-olds who wanna get back into it after giving it up to be more attractive to the opposite sex.

;-)

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy
Ken Owsley: I am definately looking forward to the Hobbit, with my breath held, waiting for the butchering. 

Unlike the LotR trilogy, in which Peter Jackson was forced to cut out large parts of the books to fit them into the time restrictions of the movies, apparently The Hobbit is going in the other director, ADDING material that isn't in the book in order to make two movies.

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy
Paul A. Rahe: For those of you who have never listened to The Lord of the Rings on CD-ROM (36 discs), which is also available on CD-ROM, let me suggest the unabridged version by Rob Inglis. ·

Somebody should adapt the unabridged audiobooks into a motion-comic!  That'd be sweet!


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