Peter Robinson · December 5, 2011 at 6:32pm

The former Speaker's newest ad:

Well? What think? Does it do the trick?

(Bonus question: Which state capitol building is that, anyway?)

A tip of the hat to Michael Cialdella.

Comments:



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BThompson

More importantly, what do - you - think,Peter?

Gus Marvinson
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Gus Marvinson

Don't know which capital building that was but it sure is purdy. As for the ad itself, it is good. It is a competent piece of political advertising that has one thinking of Reagan by the second or third edit; mission accomplished as far as that goes. But we knew Gingrich wasn't going to create an ad with clips of him sitting down with Pelosi, giving props to the individual mandate, and promoting ethanol subsidies, didn't we?

Franco
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Franco

Platitudes and cheezy music. I'm hating 99% of political campaign music anyway.

The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

 "Working together"? Is that an early stab at bipartisanship?

Peter Robinson
BThompson: More importantly, what do - you - think,Peter? · Dec 5 at 9:38am

To be honest, BT, I'm underwhelmed.  Is there a single Republican candidate who couldn't have produced that ad?  Where was even a hint of policy--or of energy, or of fight--that would have distinguished Newt from everyone else?  Where, so to speak, was Newt's Newtness?

Maybe Newt's calculating that the race has already come down to him and Mitt--and that all he has to do is put himself forward as the unRomney.  But that's like playing out the clock in football or basketball.  It's dangerous--even with seconds remaining, anything can happen--and it's bad for your fans' morale.

Okay, BT, your turn.  What did you think?

Edited on December 5, 2011 at 7:12pm
Ecdysis
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Ecdysis

Older, wiser Newt? or same old establishment (big government) conservative? That IS the question.

If I took everything Newt said at face value, I would vote for him in a second. Unfortunately, I have no faith that he will do what he says he will. With Newt in office, I see a very real possibility of cap and trade. I just wish Ron Paul's foreign policy wasn't so wacky. He is the only politician I trust.


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BThompson

Thanks for that, Peter. I agree with a lot of what you say, but actually think it will be pretty effective for Newt. His comeback has been based on a positive conservative message and appeal to GOP unity while attacking the media and Obama. I think this ad is just Newt going with what's been working. I suspect his next ad will be an attack on Obama's lack of leadership or the fact that he doesn't seem to believe in the America Newt is portraying in this ad.

For me personally, this is a blatant ripoff of Morning in America intended to not so subtly manipulate conservatives into believing that Newt will govern like the second coming of Reagan. To the extent "true conservatives" who just can't abide the thought of a Romney nomination buy the phony message of Newt as Reagan, they will demonstrate that they, like most voters, don't really mind being lied to and manipulated by their politicians, they just want the person they vote for to be good at it.

Edited on December 5, 2011 at 7:06pm
DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin

BThompson:

For me personally, this is a blatant ripoff of Morning in America intended to not so subtly manipulate conservatives into believing that Newt will govern like the second coming of Reagan.

It worked for me.

Basil Fawlty
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Basil Fawlty

Looks like Iowa.  Newt's no fool.


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Peter Robinson

BThompson: More importantly, what do - you - think,Peter? · Dec 5 at 9:38am

To be honest, BT, I'm underwhelmed.  Is there a single Republican candidate who couldn't have produced that ad?

If Mitt Romney had produced it, it would have come across as disingenuous.

jetstream
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jetstream

BThompson:

...

For me personally, this is a blatant ripoff of Morning in America intended to not so subtly manipulate conservatives into believing that Newt will govern like the second coming of Reagan. To the extent "true conservatives" who just can't abide the thought of a Romney nomination buy the phony message of Newt as Reagan, they will demonstrate that they, like most voters, don't really mind being lied to and manipulated by their politicians, they just want the person they vote for to be good at it. · Dec 5 at 10:05am

Edited on Dec 05 at 10:06 am

What a steaming pile of condescending nonsense.  Newt Gingrich has a track record of governing as a "true conservative".

Peter Robinson

From my friend Michael, who begs to differ with me:

For what it's worth, I think that's a perfect ad in light of Newt's new status as frontrunner.  People know he's a terrific debater (and can discuss the finer points of policy for hours on end), but...showcasing the kinder, gentler grandfatherly Newt who can speak to the general unease about the trajectory of the country...that's valuable, no?  Romney can't do that nearly as comfortably.  Unfortunately for him, he's a stiff-as-a-board patrician in a fairly populist moment.


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BThompson
jetstream: What a steaming pile of condescending nonsense.  Newt Gingrich has a track record of governing as a "true conservative". 

See Peter, the phony message is already working!

Peter Robinson
Gus Marvinson: Don't know which capital building that was but it sure is purdy.  · Dec 5 at 9:43am

I just figured it out:  Iowa!  (Homer Simpson like self-administered dope slap.  "D'oh!" It would be Iowa, wouldn't it? That's where Newt needs to win first.)

Anyway, the state capitol in Des Moines:

capitol
Flagg Taylor
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Flagg Taylor

 Did y'all see Byron York on the divide over Newt?  Apparently anyone who has ever really worked with Newt can't really support him for President.

Steven Potter
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Steven Potter

I liked it.  Not enough to sway me to come off the fence for Newt, but I like the positive messaging.  Good visuals.

jetstream
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BThompson

jetstream: What a steaming pile of condescending nonsense.  Newt Gingrich has a track record of governing as a "true conservative". 

See Peter, the phony message is already working! · Dec 5 at 10:29am

More condescending nonsense!  Sorry, but I worked for the Reagan campaign and have known and followed Newt Gingrich since 1980. The phony message here is not coming from Newt Gingrich.


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BThompson

So why are the people who knew Reagan best so devoted to him still, and the people who know Newt best in both his personal and professional life hate his guts?

Edited on December 5, 2011 at 7:42pm
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Peter Robinson

BThompson: More importantly, what do - you - think,Peter?

Where, so to speak, was Newt's Newtness?

That's the wisdom of it, imo (yes, "wisdom", George Will): Newt now needs more often to play against type, since most everyone who's attracted to Newt's "Newtness" is likely already on board. 

Those of us who need more convincing are looking more for evidence that he can control his Newtness in the general election -- maybe pull off a "bi-partisan healer" schtick, portraying himself as the guy who crossed the aisle in the 90's to "get things done", as the independents like to hear. This ad tells me he's thinking that same way.

In fact, if Newt wins the primary, look for him to try to spark nostalgia for the 90's -- yes, even for the Clinton-Gingrich "team". The cleverest thing of all would be for him to induce some kind words from Bill himself, who, I just bet, would be willing to play along -- to aggrandize himself, of course, but also to kinda sorta undermine Obama (whom you just know, deep down, he despises). 


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Audacious

 In terms of setting an overarching theme, the ad seems like a good setup piece.

It seems pretty obvious that it attempts to capture the feel of "Morning in America"

About what Newt says versus what he does: he's obviously said a lot about a lot.  But when it comes right down to what he's done, I don't see how any conservative can argue with his success in driving the '94 capture of the house and the successes on welfare and spending.  I distinctly remember buying 10 year Treasuries on or the day after election day in 1994 at a yield of 8%.  In early January 99 the yield was down to 4.70%.

Finally:  I'm not drawing a parallel between the men themselves, but the discussions in NY and Washington about Newt is reminiscent of what discussions of Churchill must have sounded like among the British elites from both sides before 5/10/40.


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