Of Course They Did
Speaks for itself: 25 Jesuits in Wisconsin signed petition to recall Gov. Scott Walker. This link provides some colorful details:
EMM has learned Marquette University High School President Rev. Warren Samaza, SJ acted as a signature gatherer for the left’s effort to recall Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker. I’m sure many parents who sacrifice to send their sons to Marquette High School to learn Catholic values will be thrilled to know he’s so committed to undoing their votes from the 2010 gubernatorial election. Oh well, if they can afford that school, they’re probably greedy undertaxed one percenters.
Sazama isn’t the only Jesuit in the Marquette community who is on board to replace the Marquette University alum governor with a pro-abort/pro-gay marriage/pro-welfare state secular humanist Democrat. One of the signatures Sazama personally collected was that of Marquette University Trustee Father Thomas Lawler, SJ. Oh, and, Lawler also happens to be the Provincial Superior of all Jesuits for Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wyoming.
Father Willian O’Leary, SJ was so caught up in recall fever that signed the petition twice. On 11/19/12, he signed using the address 10100 W Wisconsin Ave. Then on 12/9/12 he signed again using the address 10100 W Bluemound Rd. Both addresses are part of the St Camillus Campus in Wauwatosa. Thanks a lot, padre. Much appreciated.
Father William J. Brennan, SJ also acted as a signature gatherer. Father Bill is a colorful character. In 2007 he travelled to Cuba in order to perform an ecumenical service at the tomb of the marxist mass killer Che Guevara. I’m sure his heart was in the right place-lol.
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Mar '11
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I'm shocked, shocked to learn there are raging leftists in Jesuit ranks. Hopefully the Vatican has a visit in store for them as well.
Jun '10
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I need help from my Catholic friends. In my reading of history, the Jesuits were always getting in trouble for being tough guys, trying to run everything, etc. (i.e., not your standard "social justice" types).
Now they seem to be a bunch of effete, leftie wimps. What happened? Or have I completely misread history?
Edited on June 6, 2012 at 5:26pmRe: Of Course They Did
No Salvation Outside the Democratic Party...
Jan '11
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Speaks for itself? Humor me, I'm obviously deaf. What does it say?
Sep '10
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tabula rasa: I need help from my Catholic friends. In my reading of history, the Jesuits were always getting in trouble for being tough guys, trying to run everything, etc. (i.e., not your standard "social justice" types).
Now they seem to be a bunch of effete, leftie wimps. What happened? Or have I completely misread history? · 11 minutes ago
Edited 10 minutes ago
Joseph M. Becker has some of the story here.
Sep '10
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Pseudodionysius
tabula rasa: I need help from my Catholic friends. In my reading of history, the Jesuits were always getting in trouble for being tough guys, trying to run everything, etc. (i.e., not your standard "social justice" types).
Now they seem to be a bunch of effete, leftie wimps. What happened? Or have I completely misread history? · 11 minutes ago
Edited 10 minutes ago
Joseph M. Becker has some of the story here. · 2 minutes ago
Small book review at New Oxford Review here.
Jun '10
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Pseudodionysius
tabula rasa: I need help from my Catholic friends. In my reading of history, the Jesuits were always getting in trouble for being tough guys, trying to run everything, etc. (i.e., not your standard "social justice" types).
Now they seem to be a bunch of effete, leftie wimps. What happened? Or have I completely misread history? · 11 minutes ago
Edited 10 minutes ago
Joseph M. Becker has some of the story here. · 2 minutes ago
Thanks, Pseudo. I'm glad to know that I'm not completely delusional.
Sep '10
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tabula rasa
Pseudodionysius
tabula rasa: I need help from my Catholic friends. In my reading of history, the Jesuits were always getting in trouble for being tough guys, trying to run everything, etc. (i.e., not your standard "social justice" types).
Now they seem to be a bunch of effete, leftie wimps. What happened? Or have I completely misread history? · 11 minutes ago
Edited 10 minutes ago
Joseph M. Becker has some of the story here. · 2 minutes ago
Thanks, Pseudo. I'm glad to know that I'm not completely delusional. · 3 minutes ago
I've read the book (several years ago). A very sad and poignant read in many parts, particularly because its devoid of polemic.
Dec '10
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The founder of the Jesuits was Saint Ignatius. He got to be a saint by killing heretics. Things have changed.
Jan '11
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Pseudodionysius
Small book review at New Oxford Reviewhere.
For the record, I haven't read the Becker book ... but if the review of it reflects what it says, it rings true to me.
Couple of points to consider:
For a long stretch that coincided with my time in the Order, very few superiors knew how to command. Conflicts within a community weren't resolved by a command of obedience from a superior ... instead they became passive-aggressive dances of feelings and manipulation. We'd have to sit in a circle and hope the Holy Spirit would bring illumination. I always thought that Spirit would let us just sit there, in penance for our stupidity.
Jan '11
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Not sure this is exactly accurate ...
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I'm a bit uncomfortable with the idea that being a good Jesuit means you support one political party over another. Voting decisions are complex and require balancing competing values.
Nov '11
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Aggrieved by Mr. McGurn's post and - as always - enlightened, heartened and challenged by K. C.'s responses! Thanks to all!
Aug '11
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Leftist values are a religion unto themselves and are fundamentally in conflict with many tenets of traditional Jewish and Christian faiths. Leftists who consider themselves religious must by definition have left behind many of the traditional teachings of their faiths which are in direct conflict with leftist values.
May '10
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Then there's this somewhat more damning portrait of an order taken over by a gay mafia, found in the Weekly Standard. It ends with the memorable sentence:
That formula--single-malt whiskey, sodomy, senescence--compares and contrasts neatly with Churchill's famous summary of life in the British navy: rum, sodomy, the lash.
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If you want to see what a post like this looks from "the other side," you can read here.
Dec '10
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KC Mulville
Not sure this is exactly accurate ... · 2 hours ago
Wasn't meant to be;-)
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Actually what I summarized in flip form has become the de facto philosophy of left of center Catholics, who dissent -- usually publicly -- on most Catholic teaching, especially on human sexuality, but never question one jot of the Democratic Party platform. They would never put it that way, of course, but that's the way it works in practice, and the good fathers of Marquette just helped confirm it.
Jan '11
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What's most disturbing to me is the short-sightedness of "social justice" being measured entirely by tax money to the poor. The opposition that claims to be Catholic and for social justice sees only one thing: that money which used to go to the poor is on the proposed chopping block. Then, they see tax cuts, and all they can calculate is less money to poor, more money to investors (the already wealthy).
That's just short-sighted. Liberals often answer that by saying that the poor don't have time to be far-sighted. Yes - we have to find some way to overcome that - but continuing the existing mistake isn't a moral answer, especially when the money is going to run out soon anyway.
Nov '10
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Bill, many thanks for this information, I now have fresh ammunition to defend myself from my Catholic wife and Priest, an exceptionally wonderful man, who are on my back constantly about converting from the Episcopal Church. As much as I admire the Catholic Church, I remain scarred from what I consider near communist proclamations from the Bishop in Richmond during the 1980s and 19902. I admire the Church, I am not sure I trust it yet.