Ricochet should ditch its mission of being the premiere web locale for convivial, intelligent right-of-center conversation, President Obama said Monday.

"You can't make money just marketing to conservatives," Obama said on a conference call with Rob Long and Peter Robinson.  "Let me be clear, there is room for conservative participation.  But you have got to understand the market.  Liberals and progressives want a place for civil, intelligent conversation too."

No. That didn't actually happen.  And no, liberals do not have an interest in civil, intelligent conversation. But this happened, and it's equally preposterous.

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Stuart Creque
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Stuart Creque

From the article:

Later Monday, Obama touted the administration’s efforts to boost electric vehicles and advanced battery technology.
“That is the kind of approach that we have to take: Using the private sector, understanding that ultimately the private sector is going to be creating jobs, but also understanding that government can be an effective partner in that process, and nowhere is that more true than in rural America.”

What?  Electric vehicles and advanced battery technology in rural America?  Where the driving distances are in scores of miles each way, and the farm equipment has to do heavy-duty work from dawm to dusk?

Is our President an idiot surrounded by idiots?  Or am I missing an important aspect of rural life?

Cas Balicki
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Cas Balicki

The unintended consequence of legislation to increase gas mileage was that consumers mover to trucks as manufacturers mover to the production of lighter smaller vehicles. SUV's were registered as trucks and consequently not limited to the same extent as cars. Now I don't think Obama should know anything about cars, but should he not know the consequences, unintended or not, of legislation?

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

Perhaps the Tailpipe in Chief can tell that to the company that manufactures his tour bus. I expect King Barack of Taxalot to ride around on a unicycle with a juggling act if he's going to be this much of a clown.

Squishy Blue RINO
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Squishy Blue RINO

 From the article:

The president said his administration “turned around” the U.S. auto industry and is calling on automakers to change the way they do business."

Obama and the UAW are Thelma and Louise-ing us. They stole our car (industry) and now they are making smoochy faces at each other while barrelling toward the cliff.

Edited on Aug 15, 2011 at 2:56pm
CJRun
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CJRun

 So, I get by with a small 6cyl SUV that struggles pulling more than a very light trailer, but he grossly skews the mileage available from the class of passenger cars by purchasing this V8 Hemi powered ride?

How many electric roller skates does Chrysler have to sell to hit over 50 mpg for their average, with people like him purchasing a Hemi to roll around Chicago?

Frozen Chosen
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Frozen Chosen

Yea right!  How's that Volt working out for you, govt motors?  You say you sold 125 of 'em last month?  Boy, you guys really are geniuses!

bereket kelile
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bereket kelile

Rural America is where Obama had to have lived in order to be raised with those Kansas values he talked about in 2008. 

Since when did he become consultant-in-chief and where did he get his experience in marketing and sales? 

Forrest Cox
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Forrest Cox
Cas Balicki: Now I don't think Obama should know anything about cars, but should he not know the consequences, unintended or not, of legislation?

Your expectations are, quite clearly, too high.  How else can you explain the following occurrence - POTUS outsources the drafting of legislation for the better part of two years to a woman (my elected representative, in fact - and how proud I am to claim her my own...) who said the following:

 "But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."

I mean...

Edited on Aug 15, 2011 at 3:21pm
Whiskey Sam
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Whiskey Sam

It's times like this I'd like to toss the Code of Conduct to post how I truly feel about this administration.  In a perfect world, he will spout his arrogant, ignorant BS to the wrong person and get torn a new by someone fed up with it all.

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin

Obama's new CAFE standards are so impossibly high that one can only conclude that they are designed to kill off larger vehicles. So when he says that the country’s automakers should ditch their focus on SUVs and trucks in favor of smaller, more fuel-efficient vehicles, read between the lines: what he means is they will have no choice.

(Remember that "energy prices will necessarily skyrocket" is not an unfortunate result of his energy plan. It is his energy plan.)

Edited on Aug 15, 2011 at 3:26pm
tabula rasa
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tabula rasa

Words I never thought I would hear uttered by Obama:  "you have got to understand the market."  

Then he demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of the market.  We like trucks and SUVs and we ["we" means the vast unwashed out here in flownover country] don't want the Volt.

wilber forge
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wilber forge

Anyone recall the 1957 BMW Isetta 250, Or the original Subaru vehicles in the US ?

Now those little critters got outstanding mileage, save they fell afoul of Federal vehicle safety standards. And for good reason. 

Do have to ask, just what constitutes Rural America that Obama speaks to.  Appears to be a serious dissconnect somewhere in that.

Please try to forgive one here, recall how the venerable VW started and what it was called and who implemented the program...

Edited on Aug 15, 2011 at 3:46pm
flownover
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flownover

He wants me to buy my daughter what when she turns 16 ?!?

Beg pardon, fella, we're working on survival here ,not some green dream.

Paul A. Rahe

Mr. Obama missed his calling. He is obviously nostalgic for the species of central planning practiced in the old Soviet Union.

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter
Paul A. Rahe: Mr. Obama missed his calling. He is obviously nostalgic for the species of central planning practiced in the old Soviet Union. · Aug 15 at 4:09pm

He didn't miss his calling, he missed his country.

Stuart Creque
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Stuart Creque

Folks, we're missing the real story.

This:

“You can’t just make money on SUVs and trucks,” Obama said during a town hall forum in Cannon Falls, Minn. “There is a place for SUVs and trucks, but as gas prices keep on going up, you have got to understand the market. People are going to try to save money.”

plus this:

Obama has touted the new [CAFE for trucks] standards as “the single most important step we’ve ever taken as a nation to reduce our dependence on foreign oil.”

equals an Administration whose energy policy is solely based on driving up energy prices until Americans can't afford imported oil and gas anymore.

As candidate Obama told the SF Chronicle editorial board, under his Administration's preferred policies, "electric rates would necessarily skyrocket." He's showing that he's committed to that outcome, along with skyrocketing costs of all forms of energy.

Forrest Cox
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Forrest Cox

tabula rasa: Words I never thought I would hear uttered by Obama:  "you have got to understand the market."  

Then he demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of the market.  We like trucks and SUVs and we ["we" means the vast unwashed out here in flownover country] don't want the Volt. · Aug 15 at 3:23pm

VDH wrote an article a few months ago that discussed just this phenomenon WRT President Obama - namely, that whenever he makes a statement like the one you pointed out, he can be expected to do, almost immediately, something completely contradictory to his proclamation.  Time and time again this guy says one thing, then contradicts it through his actions (or though his next statement).  

One would think an enterprising member of the legacy press would recognize the market potential of highlighting such a trend...

Forrest Cox
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Forrest Cox

flownover: He wants me to buy my daughter what when she turns 16 ?!?

Beg pardon, fella, we're working on survival here ,not some green dream. · Aug 15 at 3:52pm

The problem is that the far-left views the "green" issue through the lens of survival.  They really do think (or at least they try to convince themselves) they're saving the planet from the rest of us.  

Stuart Creque
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Stuart Creque

Forrest Cox

flownover: He wants me to buy my daughter what when she turns 16 ?!?

Beg pardon, fella, we're working on survival here ,not some green dream.

The problem is that the far-left views the "green" issue through the lens of survival.  They really do think (or at least they try to convince themselves) they're saving the planet from the rest of us.

Bingo. They can't compromise on matters of life and death -- who could?  They see environmentalism and ObamaCare as questions of very survival, whereas we see them as issues of politics and preference.

We tend to see the Federal deficit and debt as issues of national, cultural and even personal survival, and so we rail against compromise on those issues.  The Left sees them as issues of politics and preference (even greed).


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Al Kennedy

This is wrong on so many levels it is hard to know where to begin.  It is a perfect illustration that President Obama has no understanding of markets.  People purchase cars because of some combination of price, comfort, economy, and safety.  Each individual may value these components differently.  The Volt’s sales figures to date should inform him that it is not a car that Americans want to buy.

The CAFE standards do not reflect the desires or needs of the American public.  They are the government’s attempt to force auto manufacturers to make the kind of cars that Washington D.C. wants them to build and is based on the assumption that all Americans live in a highly urbanized location and that burning fossil fuel is an affront to the environment.  This is a false assumption.  The recently proposed large truck standards have the potential to increase the distribution costs of all goods sold in America and therefore their price.

Individual Americans and markets make much better decisions than government planners ever will.


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