"find the individual mandate unconstitutional and the remainder of the law inseverable. Take the whole thing down.  Let Obama rhapsodize about the beautiful future that might have been — it's very pretty when it's not real — and blast away at that terrible Supreme Court that reaches beyond the realm of the law. Ironically, Obama would be publicly denouncing the Court for getting political and secretly grateful that the political benefit came to him."

Says Ann Althouse.

Do you agree with her? I think it helps Obama a little bit if anti-Obama voters don't feel the urgency anymore to get him out of office because of Obamacare. And if the urgency is gone, then conservatives will not have to worry about "electability" and vote with their heart instead. Meaning: Herman Cain.

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Cobalt Blue
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Jul '11
Cobalt Blue

You don't win by losing. Losing just makes you look like a loser - definitely not like a leader worthy of the term.

She's right that it may fire up some small segment of the Romantic Left, but to the vast middle, it just confirms that his signature piece of legislation, after being slowly eroded by bits and pieces since it was passed, really was the unsalvageable mess his opponents always claimed it was. The stench of incompetence will be impossible to shake ... and the only remedy will be to show him the door!

Sisyphus
Joined
Jul '10
Sisyphus

Even if it is struck down, what about the still collapsing job market, the Obama misery index, the mindless foreign policy, the insulting and asinine apology tours, the federal gun running to criminal cartels in an insane plot to somehow undermine the 2nd Amendment, the fuel prices and the crippling of the productive domestic energy sector, the breathless vacuity of the endless speech machine, the war on Madison, WI, on Wall Street, on the US military, on the US Constitution, on the Tea Party, on the health care market, on the dollar, on school lunchrooms, on the student loan market, on the housing loan market, on the car dealers, on GM and Chrysler bond holders, on, well, you get the gist.


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Sep '10
liberal jim

Obama's best hope for reelection is and has been the GOP.  

Leslie Watkins
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Sep '10
Leslie Watkins

If Obamacare is struck down, I would like for him to win reelection and to have a House and Senate safely large enough to stop any additional advances of his ideology. The economy is likely going to be bad for long past 2012. If a Republican is president, the Republicans will blamed from day one, despite having inherited such a mess.

ParisParamus
Joined
May '10
ParisParamus

If Obamacare disappears as an issue, that makes Romney incrementally more acceptable to voters right-of-center (not much, but a little).  Moreover, it makes Obama look like even more of a failure to the left, so I think this makes no sense.

Tom Paine
Joined
Aug '11
Tom Paine

Someone actually reads Ann Althouse? 

Douglas
Joined
Mar '11
Douglas

Althouse makes no sense. One, there is indeed the "loser" thing going on here. Second, Obamacare was unpopular with the public. A majority would celebrate SCOTUS overturning it. Sounds like Althouse has the same kind of losing mentality that so many other Republicans do... "do the same things as Democrats, just do them less".


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Apr '11
Kory Graber

The headline should read: “Obama’s best hope for a single payer system is for the Supreme Court to strike down the individual mandate.”  The individual mandate portion of PPACA was going to be the only thing keeping the private insurance market profitable with the hundreds of other nickel and dime rules in Obamacare.  People seem to think Obamacare and the individual mandate are interchangeable synonyms.  I can assure you that they are not.  Most states are either way behind, or not even trying to set up their insurance exchanges by the 2014 deadline.  Not meeting the minimum guidelines in PPACA, HHS will by law seize control over the states’ exchanges.  Since the law is rigged to make the private insurance market impossible to operate in without the individual mandate, insurers will bow out creating a crisis that forces the government to swoop in and administer the nation’s healthcare benefits.  Talk to anyone in administration in the insurance business.  This is the game plan, and we’re all prepping our resumes to submit to HHS.

wilber forge
Joined
Oct '10
wilber forge

If ObamaCare is struck down it will be blamed on the previous administration laying traps. Another chance to double down on already failed policies.

According to these folk, the games was rigged and they need to change all to rules to succeed. Not amused. 

Cutlass
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Apr '11
Cutlass

I'm leaning more towards this view.  Unless we can elect an actual conservative who will take bold action to correct the problems of the welfare state we are better off with Obama.  We are closer than ever to having clarity on the failures of the left.  It would be a disaster to let them off the hook by electing a another big government RINO to take the blame and drag conservatism down with him.

And I say this knowing Obama will likely stack the Supreme Court with leftists.  We can wage that battle when it comes. 

Leslie Watkins: If Obamacare is struck down, I would like for him to win reelection and to have a House and Senate safely large enough to stop any additional advances of his ideology. The economy is likely going to be bad for long past 2012. If a Republican is president, the Republicans will blamed from day one, despite having inherited such a mess. · Oct 16 at 8:58am
Leslie Watkins
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Leslie Watkins

I thought about the Court. But really, there's only Ginsberg to think about over the next four years, right? She's already a predictable liberal vote, so ... 

Cutlass: I'm leaning more towards this view.  Unless we can elect an actual conservative who will take bold action to correct the problems of the welfare state we are better off with Obama.  We are closer than ever to having clarity on the failures of the left.  It would be a disaster to let them off the hook by electing a another big government RINO to take the blame and drag conservatism down with him.

And I say this knowing Obama will likely stack the Supreme Court with leftists.  We can wage that battle when it comes.  · Oct 16 at 2:33pm

Leslie Watkins: If Obamacare is struck down, I would like for him to win reelection and to have a House and Senate safely large enough to stop any additional advances of his ideology. The economy is likely going to be bad for long past 2012. If a Republican is president, the Republicans will blamed from day one, despite having inherited such a mess. · Oct 16 at 8:58am
Cutlass
Joined
Apr '11
Cutlass

I believe Kennedy has indicated he would retire soon.

Then, if Breyer decides to go, Obama could solidify a leftist majority with 5 relatively young justices.  Conservatives wouldn't have a chance for at least 20 years.

Leslie Watkins: I thought about the Court. But really, there's only Ginsberg to think about over the next four years, right? She's already a predictable liberal vote, so ... 
Charles Gordon
Joined
Dec '10
Charles Gordon
John Marzan  "...secretly grateful that the political benefit came to him."

She makes an accurate, if banal, observation about his modus operandi: every effort he ever gave in the Oval Office was never in the pursuit of a political agenda, but used to set up markers for his reelection campaign.

liberal jim: Obama's best hope for reelection is and has been the GOP.   · Oct 16 at 5:39am

Our historic first Islamic apostate president has several advantages. He knows the GOP knows he has only two standards: winning and not losing. He knows the GOP knows his only purpose in office is to satisfy his appetite for personal prestige and power. He knows the GOP knows he couldn’t care less about the GOP doing anything to stop him because they both know the GOP hasn't and won’t try. If he wins, he will pursue his personal prestige and power; the county will lose four more years of prosperity, pay more dollars per gallon of gas, and be forced into another country not of our choosing to fight another war.

Reagan fought against the GOP establishment; the GOP establishment is fighting against Perry, and will against Cain.

TeamAmerica
Joined
Oct '10
TeamAmerica

Leslie Watkins & Cutlass-Have you read Mark Steyn? The US as we know it may not survive another four years of Obama. In addition, the Iranian plot and the ludicrous response will not have gone unnoticed by our enemies, greatly increasing the odds of war.

Patrick Gibbs
Joined
Apr '11
Patrick Gibbs

I agree with TeamAmerica. This country cannot afford another four years of Obama. If you wanted to find out what it was like to live through the 1930's, then just re-elect Obama. His policies will continue to trash the economy. He will block the reforms necessary to restrain the Leviathan federal government created during the past 75 years and foreign policy will be a disaster, not to mention a weakened defense establishment.

The Supreme Court would be his crowning "achievement" with nomination of people to turn it to the left. It is now stuck in the middle with any movement towards constitutional government dependent on which side of the bed Justice Anthony Kennedy got out of that morning.

If ObamaCare is totally struck down (a big if), then the argument should be: All he did was push an unconstitutional law and make the economy worse, therefore replace him with someone who will put the federal government in its proper place. So far that does not look like Mitt Romney.

Israel Pickholtz
Joined
Feb '11
Israel P.
Leslie Watkins: If Obamacare is struck down, I would like for him to win reelection and to have a House and Senate safely large enough to stop any additional advances of his ideology.  · Oct 16 at 8:58am

Leslie clearly has no relatives here in Israel. Obama doesn't need the House and Senate to make our lives miserable over here.  And in any number of other of what you folks call "foreign countries."

Sisyphus
Joined
Jul '10
Sisyphus

Israel P.:

Actually, we call them "for'n", we just spell it foreign.

But seriously, I thought  was concerned about Israel under Clinton. I never in my life expected to see an American President this fundamentally bad. But I am told the world loves him. (They never mention Israel when they say that. Last I looked the Israelis had a 4% positive view of the man.)

Best of luck.


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