This morning brings the news that President Obama's popularity is at a 2-year high! Wow! A 2-year high. That's impressive, isn't it? Here's NPR:

"President Barack Obama's approval rating has hit its highest point in two years — 60 percent — and more than half of Americans now say he deserves to be re-elected, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll taken after U.S. forces killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden."

All the media outlets are highlighting this news, since it's so dramatically different from Obama's regular numbers.

Wait, what's that you say? There's a problem with the polling numbers that hasn't been noticed by any of these mainstream media outlets?

What? That sample (which is of "adults" as opposed to any type of voter) skews Democrat by 17 points? Did you say 17 points? Jim Geraghty at The Campaign Spot notes that the AP's immediate preceding poll was 45 percent Democrat, 33 percent Republican. In October, the poll sample was 43 percent Democrat and 40 percent Republican:

 

 With a poll sample that has a 17 percentage point margin in favor of the Democrats, is anyone surprised that these results look like a David Axelrod dream?

It's almost like the Associated Press chose a poll sample in such a way as to ensure unrealistic numbers for President Obama.

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KC Mulville
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KC Mulville
  • It's one thing to be a news outlet that wants to reach everyone. 
  • It's another thing to be a news outlet that want to reach everyone, but coming from (or promoting) a political perspective
  • But here we see a news outlet that doesn't seriously want to reach everyone. They're only interested in finding one slice of the audience that shares their political perspective. 

When they play these games, the AP (or MSNBC, etc.) act merely as "niche" news outlets, pandering to specific audiences. They flatter their audience, however, by trading on the assumption that they're really reporting on "national" opinion. 

In other words, it's journalistic fraud. 

Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith

 You have to wonder.  Most news anchors are rock stupid, so they may not even get the concept of a skewed sample.  But then you get people like say Chuck Todd, who knows damned well the sample is meaningless, and doesn't bother mentioning it, treating it as a serious news item.  Either he's (just to use him; plenty of others) politically biased, or is heavily invested in the integrity of the polls, so doesn't want to sow doubts.

Geraghty the Indispensible did have another fun observation from that poll.  Even with a 17-point skew, Dubya's approval rating splits 50-49.

Mollie Hemingway, Ed.

The poll's skewed even worse -- worse! -- than I thought.

Edited on May 11, 2011 at 7:52am
EJHill
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EJHill
Kennedy Smith:  But then you get people like say Chuck Todd, who knows damned well the sample is meaningless, and doesn't bother mentioning it, treating it as a serious news item.

Chuck Todd is a prime example of Incestuous Media Syndrome. He has, as they say, skin in the game. His wife, Kristian, is a co-founder of Maverick Strategy and Mail, a Democrat and Progressive campaign consulting firm. Her bio on the site boasts about how she flipped the US Senate to the Democrats with her work on the Jim Webb campaign. As long as Democrat politicians are putting money in his family's pocket I wouldn't trust him as far as I could pick him up and throw him.

Here's how you take a survey.

Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith

EJHill

Here's how you take a survey. · May 11 at 7:47am

That Yes, Prime Minister clip is exactly why I think Rasmussen provides a better result with their touch-tone system.  It simulates a voting booth, where you're not trying to impress anyone or avoid offense.  You can say what you really think.  I'd guess Obama overpolls by about 2 points, simply by being black.  Wouldn't want the young lady on the phone to think you're a racist by opposing Obama.

Tommy De Seno

 No problem.  Give them a false sense of complacency.  All the more shocked they'll be when he loses.

Snow Bird
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jrb

To put the discrepancy in perspective, Gallup, in January of 2011, listed party affiliation as 31% Democrat, 29% Republican and 38% Independent. WaPo/ABC could have argued that Americans approved of Lemurian anti-terrorism policies if they had skewed their sample a little further.

Edited on May 11, 2011 at 8:20am
raycon
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raycon

Did you imply that the AP, and by extension, the MSM is somehop biased in their position?  How could you believe such a thing?

Dan
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Dan IV

Another example of the media messing with poll numbers:  Back when Obamacare hadn't been passed yet MSNBC published an article with the headline "Poll Shows Americans Evenly Split on Healthcare Bill" (or something along those lines).  You had to actually open the article before they showed the result was actually 41% for / 57% opposed.


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