Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
Mollie Hemingway, Ed. ·
June 28, 2012 at 4:49pm
I'll be curious to see how President Obama responds today to the Supreme Court ruling that he imposed a ginormous tax increase on middle class Americans. Here he is rejecting the idea that the mandate is a tax:
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Jun '10
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
He was against a healthcare tax until he was for it.
May '10
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
It is easy: HE will say he does not think it is a tax and the press will go along.
Personally, I am having a Hudson moment.
Apr '12
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
Yes you may be right, but then more voters are probably going to disagree with him.
And yes, the MSM will not inform the public that the mandate is a tax, Romney's going to have to do that himself.
I can already see Romney's campaign coffers benefiting while Obama's suffer.
Edited on June 28, 2012 at 5:06pmAug '10
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
Bryan G. Stephens: It is easy: HE will say he does not think it is a tax and the press will go along.
Personally, I am having a Hudson moment. · 0 minutes ago
Since the Supreme Court also ruled that lying about honors one receives from the government is constitutional
and lying about taxes one imposes is not substantively different from lying about honors
Then I expect him to continue to lie with impunity.
The O-Media will support him as Bryan says.
Aug '11
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
His response will be "I won."
May '12
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
Yeah, I'm sure Obama will take it anyway he can get it. I predict he will turn on a dime and say something like, "Well, of course it's a tax increase, but just not the kind of tax increase my opponents were talking about."
Edited on June 28, 2012 at 5:10pmMay '12
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
I guess this is us making lemonade out of lemons. Or trying.
Oct '10
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
Not lemonade, Lemoncello. Much stronger and effective.
Nov '10
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
It's only a tax if you don't do what the government tells you to do.
Mar '11
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
Given his completely flawed interpretation of the Constitution, anything he says will be nonsense.
And here I thought slavery had been abolished in this country. With government officially in charge of health care, what won't they be able to tell us not to do?
Edited on June 28, 2012 at 5:27pmMar '11
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
Consistency has never been a virtue in this man's mind and constant inconsistency has never hurt him.
May '11
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
Unfortunately, as I read the decision, that's not what it says. In fact, it seems to provide political cover on this point. The decision finds that the mandate was not meant to be a tax, which is why the court could rule on the case despite the Anti-injunction Act. Instead, it is found constitutional in effect because it could have been passed as a tax, and would have been constitutional if it had been.
Jun '10
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
How about this line of thought for an anti-Obama ad:
1. Obama said the individual mandate was not a tax. [show relevant video]
2. Obama's lawyers, trying to save the mandate, said it was a tax [show relevant section from brief]
3. The Supreme Court has now said it's either a tax or is beyond the power of Congress: so it's a tax.
4. Obama and his minions have imposed the largest tax on Americans in history.
5. Is that what you really want? This bill must be repealed. Vote Romney [video of Romney saying he'll sign a complete repeal]
Oct '10
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
David Gaw
Unfortunately, as I read the decision, that's not what it says. In fact, it seems to provide political cover on this point. The decision finds that the mandate was notmeant to be a tax, which is why the court could rule on the case despite the Anti-injunction Act. Instead, it is found constitutional in effect because it couldhave been passed as a tax, and would have been constitutional if it had been. · 0 minutes ago
I don't understand. If it was not a tax as the law is written, why wouldn't they say "as written and intended, the mandate is unconstitutional" and added, if they wished, "However, if it had been deemed a tax it would've been fine"?
Aug '10
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
Severely Ltd.
Not lemonade, Lemoncello. Much stronger and effective.
Ooh! I know a great homemade Limoncello recipe! Made with Everclear.
Aug '10
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
As for Obama, the now-it's-a tax kerfuffle will be just another drop of water off a particularly greasy duck's back.
May '11
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
This is one of the more irritating aspects of Roberts' opinion, in my view. Roberts argues that precedent requires the Court to resort to "any reasonable construction" to save a statute from unconstitutionality, and the way he found to do that was by finding that even though it wasn't called a tax, it could have been (given that it's collected by the IRS) and would have been constitutional if it had been--and therefore it is.
(It appears that the Chief Justice's definition of the word "reasonable" and my own differ.)
Jun '10
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
tabula rasa:
4. Obama and his minions have imposed the largest tax on Americans in history.
Largest? Really? Most Americans have health insurance, how many will really pay the tax? I think in terms of revenue generated it will end up a pretty small tax.
And regardless of the total numbers I don't see this as a very compelling political argument. The average middle-class voter already has insurance, so they won't feel that this raises their taxes.
May '10
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
I think Roberts has been extraordinarily clever. Had the mandate been treated as a Commerce Clause issue, it would have been struck down, provoking a vicious fight about severability. Avoiding all that bench-legislating surgery, and dumping the largest tax increase in history on the President's lap (all the while declaring him a liar) both held the court together, and granted the President a truly dreadful Pyrrhic victory.
Now its your job to ensure that the legislation gets changed (can't help, wrong passport).
Oct '10
Re: Obama: 'I Absolutely Reject Notion' It's A Tax Increase
Midget Faded Rattlesnake
Severely Ltd.
Not lemonade, Lemoncello. Much stronger and effective.
Ooh! I know a great homemade Limoncello recipe! Made with Everclear. · 37 minutes ago
Perfect, Midge. Too bad you can't set up a stand on Ricochet today, you could retire on the proceeds.