Watch Nigel's performance on the BBC in an open panel town hall and tell me that he doesn't do Newt better than Newt. Its possible to challenge the premises of the question without setting the voters teeth on edge. I'm beginning to think a constitutional amendment to allow Nigel and Mark Steyn to run for office might be just what the United States needs for what ails it.

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Nanda Panjandrum
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Nanda Panjandrum

Pseud, when are we starting the USIP?  Can we borrow Nigel?!

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

He was wobbly on Israel versus Hamas, but give him time. On the economic issues he was flawless and schooled everyone at the table on the EU.

EThompson
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EThompson

With all due respect to The Nigel of whom I am terribly fond, the UK has suffered longer under socialist policy than the U.S. and is perhaps more responsive to his potent analyses. Let's see where Americans stand in four years, assuming we survive the inevitable fiscal crash and burn...

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

"That.. is.. why.. it's.. happening. Simple."

What a Character.

More please.

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

Jimmy Carter: "That.. is.. why.. it's.. happening. Simple."

What a Character.

More please. · 0 minutes ago

Claire and Judith could pound some sense into him on Israel, but on the economics, its clear that he's been doing this every day in the EU Parliament chambers, and he runs circles around everyone else at the table.

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

Yes, He rattles off economics like it's nobody's business (like how I played that?), but the Israel vs. hamas question went pc. It made Me cringe.


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Keith Bruzelius

He also appears frequently on King World News, a decent markets/economics podcast. Very informative guy.

EThompson
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EThompson
Jimmy Carter: Yes, He rattles off economics like it's nobody's business (like how I played that?), but the Israel vs. hamas question went pc. It made Me cringe. · 4 minutes ago

Definitely a reflection of one's political constituency. Across the Atlantic, see Chris Christie and his support of the Ground Zero mosque: Mark Levin Slams Chris Christie on 9/11 Mosque

Robert Lux
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Robert Lux

I'm a proud subscriber to two Nigel Farage/UKIP pages at YouTube.  

Watching him, along with Bill Buckley's old Firing Lines have largely been my antidotes to depression the last couple weeks. 

Edited on November 29, 2012 at 9:25am
Crow's Nest
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Crow's Nest

Israel isn't the only foreign policy issue where Farage might need a come to Jesus moment--but were he and UKIP able to restore a strong and confident UK, the world would be a far better place for it.

His work exposing and mocking the EU for what it is has been indispensable.

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy

I know it's the BBC, but I am really impressed that they would put together such an in depth, town hall discussion of a measly by-election, including actual voters from the actual constituency.

We just had three by-elections up here in the Great White North. You'd barely know it from the news.

Brian Clendinen
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Brian Clendinen

I noticed he did not critize the BBC, yes it would be classless while on the network to critize them. However, I think it has much more to do with their power than anything. Making the BBC your enemey is just bad politics for getting press coverage.

So I can understand him being soft on the issue, still does not mean I like it.

Cornelius Julius Sebastian
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Cornelius Julius Sebastian

Pseud, I would support such an amendment if it could be lmited to just those two individuals.  Well maybe Dan Hannan too.  I think I need to double down on Robert Lux's Farage/Buckley subscriptions noted above.   I constantly feel like throwing up since 11/6.

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy

Pseudodionysius:

I'm beginning to think a constitutional amendment to allow Nigel and Mark Steyn to run for office might be just what the United States needs for what ails it.

Two words: President Granholm.

Shudder...

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

Brian Clendinen: I noticed he did not critize the BBC, yes it would be classless while on the network to critize them. However, I think it has much more to do with their power than anything. Making the BBC your enemey is just bad politics for getting press coverage.

So I can understand him being soft on the issue, still does not mean I like it. · 1 hour ago

Nigel is extremely shrewd in harnassing the media. No one would have predicted in 2005 that some clown beating up on hapless EU C3PO's immortalized on YouTube videos would be a serious contender for political gravitas in the UK. 

I suspect he'd gut the BBC like a stuck pig 6 seconds after assuming office and take great delight in doing it. But, you'd never guess that from his manner of delivery in this session. I think everyone from the BBC knows it too, which is why they're circling him the way lambs circle the wolf.

Pseudodionysius
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Cornelius Julius Sebastian
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Pseudodionysius

Brian Clendinen: I noticed he did not critize the BBC, yes it would be classless while on the network to critize them. However, I think it has much more to do with their power than anything. Making the BBC your enemey is just bad politics for getting press coverage.

So I can understand him being soft on the issue, still does not mean I like it. · 1 hour ago

Nigel is extremely shrewd in harnassing the media. No one would have predicted in 2005 that some clown beating up on hapless EU C3PO's immortalized on YouTube videos would be a serious contender for political gravitas in the UK. 

I suspect he'd gut the BBC like a stuck pig 6 seconds after assuming office and take great delight in doing it. But, you'd never guess that from his manner of delivery in this session. I think everyone from the BBC knows it too, which is why they're circling him the way lambs circle the wolf. · 36 minutes ago

If Farage becomes PM, I am emigrating to UK.

James Of England
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EThompson: With all due respect to The Nigel of whom I am terribly fond, the UK has suffered longer under socialist policy than the U.S. and is perhaps more responsive to his potent analyses. Let's see where Americans stand in four years, assuming we survive the inevitable fiscal crash and burn... ·

Newt has some achievements, though. Farage has kept UKIP heavily focused on electoral politics rather than on substantive policy. As a result, UKIP conferences, policy papers, and the like focus either on going with the popular position of the day on the issue of the day or on "after the revolution" issues.

I can see the similarity with Newt, whose private life he might also relate to, but Newt really knows the details of his policies, whereas Farage is profoundly uninterested in the details of British and European law and policy. Even on obscure points, Newt has always struck me as genuinely knowledgeable. Even on central points, Farage has only a vague grasp of policy.

I admit that my conversations with both have been trade oriented, which is a bigger deal in the US, but friends with better knowledge have confirmed my views of both.

James Of England
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James Of England

Thank you, Pseudo. I feel better about myself for the rare opportunity to write a pro-Newt comment.

I should also note that trade is a relatively small part of what the US federal legislature does and a relatively large part of what the EU federal legislature does.

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

James Of England: Thank you, Pseudo. I feel better about myself for the rare opportunity to write a pro-Newt comment.

I should also note that trade is a relatively small part of what the US federal legislature does and a relatively large part of what the EU federal legislature does. · 2 minutes ago

Former investment banker Farage's calling in life appears to be to get the UK out of the EU.


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