News Item: Republican Resurgence Likely to Derail Immigration Reform
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Nov 7, 2010 at 2:43pm
A Fox News national exit poll found that of the 8 percent of voters polled who identified illegal immigration as their top issue in the 2010 election, 68 percent were Republican while 27 percent were Democrat.
Another poll, conducted on Election Day by the anti-illegal immigration group FAIR, found that 69 percent of people surveyed consider immigration an important issue and 61 percent believe Obama "has not been aggressive enough in enforcing immigration law."
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Re: News Item: Republican Resurgence Likely to Derail Immigration Reform
My prediction: this is going to be a giant issue.....for the Democrats. They did pretty well in CA among Hispanics, and it's axiomatic to them that Hispanics = Democratic Party Faithful.
I think they're wrong. I think a clear, fair, strict anti-illegal immigration policy would attract, maybe, 35% or more of the existing Hispanic vote, which is all you need to make Democratic electoral math hard.
May '10
Re: News Item: Republican Resurgence Likely to Derail Immigration Reform
Good.
May '10
Re: News Item: Republican Resurgence Likely to Derail Immigration Reform
Rob, why do you believe that 35% of the Hispanic vote is opposed to illegal immigration as opposed to some othe percentage?
Oct '10
Re: News Item: Republican Resurgence Likely to Derail Immigration Reform
There's recent polls on this, IIRC.
Personally, I'm all for "a path to legality"--so long as border security comes first.
How many Mexicans must die in the drug wars before Congress realizes that, oh, maybe open borders is hurting Mexico far more then us? I have friends in Central America you know. This isn't cool.
Re: News Item: Republican Resurgence Likely to Derail Immigration Reform
Frankly, Michael, I just pulled that number out of the air. It's a stretch, of course, but not that much of a stretch. It's somewhere less than 50% and greater (in my view) than 25%. What I mean is, the Hispanic vote is not monolithic (unlike the African-American vote) and it's not single-issue.
Sep '10
Re: News Item: Republican Resurgence Likely to Derail Immigration Reform
Sounds like my vote was well spent. I wasn't among the 8% who considered that the most important issue; however, it makes my top 10 easily.
Jul '10
Re: News Item: Republican Resurgence Likely to Derail Immigration Reform
Joseph Eagar:
Personally, I'm all for "a path to legality"--so long as border security comes first
There's already a "path to legality".
It's called applying for an immigrant visa, going through the process like everybody else and waiting your turn.
Seal the border. Institute e-Verify. Hand out heavy sentences to employers who break the law. Watch illegals self-deport.
That's called the "path to sovereignty".
May '10
Re: News Item: Republican Resurgence Likely to Derail Immigration Reform
The election doesn't change anything in regard to immigration. The core problem is and always was that the executive branch can choose not to enforce the law by administrative orders.
Don't expect any "midcourse corrections" from President Obama, particularly not on this issue.
Aug '10
Re: News Item: Republican Resurgence Likely to Derail Immigration Reform
Rob Long: it's axiomatic to them that Hispanics = Democratic Party Faithful.
I think they're wrong.
Rob Long
What I mean is, the Hispanic vote is not monolithic (unlike the African-American vote) and it's not single-issue. · Nov 7 at 5:06pm
Very true Rob, Hispanics (Latinos?, and why was I 'other' in last census?) are not monlithic, many are not in the tank for the Democrats. There is definitely an opportunity here, and it is critical we make the most of it.
This opportunity deserves immediate attention. The situation in Mexico is heating up.
UT Brownsville had to shut down Friday because of a major firefight just across the border. In terms of proximity this is like shutting down Cal Berkeley because 100 armed men died defending a drug lord in Alameda, with the Oakland channel serving as the dividing body of water.
El Paso/Ciudad Juarez, Brownsville/Matmoros and Laredo/Neuva Laredo are contiguous cities. I understand sovereignty. I do not see how we can establishing it in those cities without building something like the Berlin wall.
We will certainly not capture 35% of the Hispanic vote with that in our platform.
Oct '10
Re: News Item: Republican Resurgence Likely to Derail Immigration Reform
We must not use the term "Immigration Reform." It is pure newspeak. It means whatever the speaker, the hearer, or the quoter wants it to mean and is almost always used to hide the speaker or writer's true position.
Never say that you are "for" Immigration Reform because you can then be accused of being violently xenophobic, an advocate of blanket amnesty, a racist, someone who is in favor of guest-worker programs, someone who is not in favor of guest worker programs... ad nauseum. (Technically, according to Orwell, "Immigration Reform" is doublespeak."
"Immigration Reform" by itself means nothing! So never use it without defining your terms: what do you mean when you say "Immigration Reform?" And don't let others use it without a proper and complete definition!
Half the problems we face in this country today could be solved if everyone actually thought about the words coming out of their mouths, and if they used and demanded only properly clarified terms. But as a culture we've gone very far down the road to newspeak, a thing that has not happened by accident. How else have "progressives" been able to hide their socialist agenda for so long?
May '10
Re: News Item: Republican Resurgence Likely to Derail Immigration Reform
Great point, Herb.