News Flash!! Evolution Now Complete: Obama Embraces Same-Sex Marriage

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I'd love to see a journalist actually ask the president if his position on this matter evolved before or after he refused to defend the Defense of Marriage Act, which we all know was passed by a strong majority, just to hear the response...

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Chairborne

Best headline yet:

Breaking: Noted gay-marriage supporter finally drops cynical charade

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Question: How many African American votes will this cost him? Is this enough for some to abandon him, or will they express dissapointment and still pull the lever?

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Fred Cole

Damn.

I liked having that as a club to bash Democrats with.

Edited on May 9, 2012 at 10:08pm

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He decided to be honest for once because pushing this provides a distraction from the economic mess. They want to talk about anything but that since it's the burning issue of the campaign.

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Tommy De Seno: Question: How many African American votes will this cost him? · _{2 minutes ago}

Just about 0 I would imagine.

The United States Census reported that 58 % of African Americans were voting in the presidential election of 1964. African Americans were voting Democratic 82% of the time. This number would swell to 92 % by 1968. With the exception of the 1972, 1984, and the 1992 elections Blacks would continue to give at least 80% of their collective votes to the Democratic presidential candidate

I think he's safe.

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Western Chauvinist: Ahem. Called it! · _{2 minutes ago}

Take a victory lap. And try to become just a bit more humble.

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Good question, Tommy.

Unfortunately, that never stopped blacks from voting Democrat before. If it didn't stop them from voting for old white guys, what are the odds they would vote down "the first black President" in favor of a rich stiff like Romney?

And what are the odds Romney will push traditional marriage as part of his platform?

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Diane Ellis, Ed.: And my Facebook feed has just exploded into triumph and glee. The 20-something year olds are just "moved to tears" and just "so proud" of their President. Sad that they're completely unaware that they're being played like a fiddle by a desperate Obama. · _{16 minutes ago}

And people wonder why I'm so pessimistic about the future of our country.

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In other news, Joe Biden has announced his impending divorce and upcoming marriage to Keith Judd, currently serving a sentence in Federal lockup.

Biden was swept off his feet by Judd's (11593051) hair . That and the fact he almost beat Obama.

A Mountain blossom wedding is planned if parole scheduling (or a pardon) is favorable.

Love conquers all !

Edited on May 9, 2012 at 10:10pm

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Tom Lindholtz: Judging by the conversation over here, Obama probably just locked up Fred Cole's vote. ;-) · _{19 minutes ago}

I think Fred has some bigger issues with the One.

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Fred Cole

This just in: Politician running for re-election changes position to accommodate popular sentiment.

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Tommy De Seno: Question: How many African American votes will this cost him? · _{2 minutes ago}

Just about 0 I would imagine.

The United States Census reported that 58 % of African Americans were voting in the presidential election of 1964. African Americans were voting Democratic 82% of the time. This number would swell to 92 % by 1968. With the exception of the 1972, 1984, and the 1992 elections Blacks would continue to giveat least 80%of their collective votes to the Democratic presidential candidate

I think he's safe. · _{3 minutes ago}

I think you're right. If the black electorate voted the same way they answered polls about single-issues, there would not be a monolithic bloc voting Democrat year after year.

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Roberto

Tommy De Seno: Question: How many African American votes will this cost him? · _{2 minutes ago}

Just about 0 I would imagine.

The United States Census reported that 58 % of African Americans were voting in the presidential election of 1964. African Americans were voting Democratic 82% of the time. This number would swell to 92 % by 1968. With the exception of the 1972, 1984, and the 1992 elections Blacks would continue to giveat least 80%of their collective votes to the Democratic presidential candidate

I think he's safe. · _{3 minutes ago}

I tend to agree, but if it can move 3-5 percent in some key states, it could be significant. Not planning on it--just hoping.

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Tom Lindholtz: Judging by the conversation over here, Obama probably just locked up Fred Cole's vote. ;-) · _{19 minutes ago}

I think Fred has some bigger issues with the One. · _{1 minute ago}

If I was going to vote based solely on marriage equality, I'd still be voting for Gary Johnson.

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Diane Ellis, Ed.: And my Facebook feed has just exploded into triumph and glee. The 20-something year olds are just "moved to tears" and just "so proud" of their President. Sad that they're completely unaware that they're being played like a fiddle by a desperate Obama. · _{16 minutes ago}

And people wonder why I'm so pessimistic about the future of our country. · _{2 minutes ago}

I see this with my 17 year old son and my 15 year old cousin. Both are strong Christians, but society has filled them with the grotesque idea that love equals euphoric emotions (and physical sensations), and who can hate love?

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Query: Do you think Obama is a bit miffed with Joe, whose interview on Sunday caused Obama to be smoked out on this issue?

If Biden were my VP, I'd be the first president indicted for assault on his VP.

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Jager

Did President Obama just fire up the social conservatives and get them to support Romney?

I wonder how much this will hurt him with Hispanics and white working class?

In some swing states this could be an issue that moves votes. The moderate Obama from 2008 has given up every remotely conservative/moderate position he took to get elected the first time

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Fred Cole

Not for nothing, but this is a politically winning position for Obama.

Half the American public supports marriage equality. He wins the youth vote, the gay vote, the votes of anyone with a gay sibling, parent or friend, and doesn't lose any of the black vote.