NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
Or maybe they just hate owls.
The California chapter of NOW is spearheading an effort to file complaints with each state's attorney general, complaining that children should not be allowed in the restaurants. They are relying upon what I am imagining to be extremely vague laws regarding cabaret shows that are likely left on the books since...people still went to cabaret shows.
I must confess that I have occasionally herded the family posse into Hooters as we meandered through the Casinos in Atlantic City.
Wait...am I a bad parent for having my kids at the Casinos? Don't judge. The Tropicana Casino has the only huge screen IMAX in New Jersey, so if you want to take the kids to see James Cameron's epic film about radical environmentalism with anti-American military overtones, then Tropicana Casino is where you get the action in 3D.
Hooters' retort is that their waitresses in tank tops and shorts are dressed in the style of cheerleaders not strippers, so if we have to keep children out of Hooters we have to keep them out of football games and California as well (the latter not being such a bad idea).
If NOW has their way, the government will not just tell us what we can't eat (trans fats, soda, or anything else Mayor Bloomberg doesn't eat) but also where we can't eat it. The Road To Serfdom will not have a Hooters.
So what say Ricochet? Should NOW file suit to terminate my parental rights since in one day I took my kids to a Hooters, followed by a Casino to watch a movie with pseudo-androgynous symbolism where the characters all had the same sex organ?
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Jun '10
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
Good thing Hooters doesn't sell toys with their meals, or they'd really be in trouble. But I wouldn't sweat the parental rights, Tommy, if Mrs. Tommy breast fed, you can always argue that it was not you who introduced the subject of Hooters to the children.
Edited on Dec 20, 2010 at 12:44pmOct '10
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Isn't NOW the same group that opposes abstinence-only education? Sit back and let that soak in for a minute...
Sep '10
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But female mutilation of young girls is, according to NOW.
Nov '10
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The average kid understands perfectly well what Hooters is all about.
Children are naturally conservative about "salacious things," and they know their limits. But, in general, children have no problem with displays of skimpy clothing (or any degree of nudity) — especially in a fantasy context. They accept it because they understand it and are, therefore, comfortable with it. For example, if you suggest to a child that a picture of a bare-breasted mermaid is "bad," the kid will most likely respond with: "Well, mermaids live in the water; they don't need clothes. Duh!"
I will always remember a conversation I overhead between two young girls. Their fathers were both avid collectors of fantasy paperbacks. One girl said to the other: "Your daddy reads the same kind of books as my daddy. All the covers have pictures of naked ladies and monsters." That is priceless. And charmingly insightful, as well.
Conversely, children will respond negatively to something "salacious" if it is weird, difficult to understand, and involves creepy adults (like, say, grade school sex education). That makes kids really nervous. They do not like the feeling of being in over their heads.
Does anyone even pay attention to NOW?
Edited on Dec 20, 2010 at 2:41pmSep '10
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I'm conflicted here. Funny, Hooters was sued for sex discrimination by some guys who applied for jobs there. Not a bad case IMO, but alas, NOW did not join the suit.
Second, Hooters are a little too cute, the name is kinda crude... yeah, like the owl really is their mascot, and they only hire females...hmmm
It seems they have codified flirty waitressing. I hate that. Watch theSouth Park send up where Butters falls in love with one of the waitresses thinking she actually likes him.
its a riot! ...Third, they did damage to one of my favorite bands The Hooters (named slang for a musical instrument a mouth keyboard) big in the eighties, and still big in Europe and elsewhere.
Still, I have to take your side on this.
Aug '10
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
The two Hooters in my town went bankrupt because the food is terrible.
Nov '10
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
Too cute? You ain't seen nothin'...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEP2LxAcT28&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLIFqfOFVhA&feature=related
May '10
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
I feel the same way about Hooters as I do bars with "Ladies Night": I absolutely, with every part of my body, hate both and will never give either my business. I do think that Hooters is different than scandalously dressed cheerleaders though. One is intentionally and openly scandalous, the other at least pretends it's not. In effect they're the same, but as long as we acknowledge something's wrong and try to pretend around it, the pillars of decency will never totally collapse. The objectification, which I think is NOW's real problem and understandably so, is intentional and publicized in the case of Hooters. They should go out of business because we all boycott them for turning girls/women into objects meant to abuse the powers of attraction, not because NOW thinks it's wrong.
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
Actually Joe S, we were there because the wings are good, football is on the big screen and it's the only place in Atantic City a family of 6 can eat for cheap without having to freeze your rear off on the boardwalk with a cheesesteak sandwich.
May '10
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
To each his own, Tommy, that's exactly why legislation isn't the right option for this. I don't boycott football games because cheerleaders dress the way they do. But for me, Hooters goes too far. Might I suggest Corky's next time?
Nov '10
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Mercy, Joe, you sound like a radical feminist.
If Hooters is good enough for Communist China, it is good enough for America:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhVpmVNfIcY&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Oct '10
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
I must confess I helped prevent Hooters from supporting our elementary school (K-6) Funfair and thereby getting advertising space on the flyer. But I fully support their right to run a private business as they see fit, and Tommy's right to take his children there. I am occasionally a rotten parent in others' eyes too.
May '10
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
No, a radical feminist would want government action, nothing wrong with wanting respect for others, even if they're willing to forego it themselves. Support Hooters, whatevs, I'll eat my chicken wings knowing they aren't subsidized by lonely schmucks.
Sep '10
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
Lady Kurobara
Too cute? You ain't seen nothin'...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEP2LxAcT28&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLIFqfOFVhA&feature=related · Dec 20 at 2:19pm
OK, that was interesting, for sure. I'm glad I saw that, thanks. But that isn't exactly what I meant by too cute. I mean the corporation naming the restaurant Hooters and then pretending it has something to do with owls.
BTW Did you watch the Raisins clip?
Sep '10
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
Joe S.
They should go out of business because we all boycott them for turning girls/women into objects meant to abuse the powers of attraction, not because NOW thinks it's wrong.
I see it a little differently. These women are exploiting men for money. See? Anyone can play this game!
Sep '10
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
Tommy,
It is already happening.
47 year-old Archeology professor from Ann Arbor brings his 7 year old boy to the Tigers game in Detroit. Kid wants a lemonade. Dad buys. Like everything in ball parks it's expensive. But it is actually Mike's Hard Lemonade. Dad doesn't drink, doesn't watch much TV, never heard of this stuff and thinks it is normal lemonade. Security guard spots kid drinking from the bottle, snatches it away and calls the cops. Dad protests; he didn't know. Kid is taken to the hospital by ambulance.They pump kids stomach even though kid id fine. Kid is taken away from parents put in foster care for three days. Even the mother a University of Michigan architecture prof could not get her own child.
Oct '10
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
I'm struggling to understand the line of legal reasoning that would close the Hooters in Santa Monica, California, but not close a single business on Venice Beach, California.
Sep '10
Re: NOW Saving The Children From Hooters Wings And Salacious Things
Tommy De Seno: The Road To Serfdom will not have a Hooters.
Perfectly and wonderfully put.
BTW I would vote you keep your parental rights even though the wings are mediocre.
Nov '10
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Franco
Lady Kurobara
Too cute? You ain't seen nothin'...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEP2LxAcT28&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLIFqfOFVhA&feature=related
OK, that was interesting, for sure. I'm glad I saw that, thanks. But that isn't exactly what I meant by too cute. I mean the corporation naming the restaurant Hooters and then pretending it has something to do with owls.
BTW Did you watch the Raisins clip?
I did, indeed, watch the Raisins clip. As always, Matt and Trey hit the bullseye. And I love Butters. Such a sweet little butt monkey...
As for the "cute" name, are you suggesting that the corporation seriously expects anyone to believe that guff about owls? Their tongues are firmly in their cheeks. What is really cute is that, in China, the name "Hooters" translates as the "American Owl Restaurant." And the girls are (supposedly) blissfully unaware of the slang meaning of "hooters." That is priceless. I am sure that it is an endless source of amusement to the boys back at the corporation.
Jun '10
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This business of public sexual and pseudo-sexual voyeurism was pressed home on me when I was working for a large company and the boys went out for the proverbial three-martini lunch one Friday. I went along and we ended up at a very raunchy peeler bar. When in university I met and hung with my share of strippers, so I'm no prude, but what went on at this bar was in my view way over the top. I didn't leave early or otherwise make a fuss, but from that point on I never again accepted invitations to lunch at that particular bar. Well, it wasn't too long before my reticence was noticed. I never explained not did I make a big deal of my reluctance, but it seemed that in almost no time my reluctance became "weird." That is why when I see Lady Kurobara's video links I grew uncomfortable. There is something very troubling about this sort of display, something both prurient and juvenile. I love women, but not like this.It is in a word strange.