Cairo Muslim Brotherhood Supporter

That's the headline on the front page of today's New York Times.  From the first couple of grafs:

CAIRO--In post-revolutionary Egypt, where hope and confusion collide in the daily struggle to build a new nation, religion has emerged as a powerful political force, following an uprising that was based on secular ideals.  The Muslim Brotherhood, once banned by the state, is at the forefront, transformed into a tacit partner with the military government that many fear will thwart fundamental changes.

It is also clear that the young, educated secular activists who initially inspired and propelled the nonideological revolution are no longer the driving political force....

Anybody around here surprised?

(PHOTO: A muslim brotherhood supporter hands out fliers for Gamal Shahata in the northern Cairo suburb of Shubra. David Degner / www.IncendiaryImage.com)

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Gus Marvinson
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Gus Marvinson

Anybody around here surprised?

Hardly surprising and fairly predictable.

Sisyphus
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Sisyphus

Once Egypt and Iran are on the same page..., and no mistake, the Muslim Brotherhood is the option to make that, and a lot of terror, happen.

Claire Berlinski, Ed.

Not surprised by their swift rise to prominence. Surprised that the New York Times has decided to mention it. The article has a "We've always been at war with Oceania" feeling, doesn't it? 

Ken Sweeney
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Ken Sweeney

 "Keep you fingers crossed and HOPE" does not a foreign policy make.

Kenneth
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Kenneth

So that's why the Egyptian women arrested in a feminist protest in Cairo were subjected to  forced virginity examinations. 

Who knew?  I just assumed it was a Planned Parenthood thing.

Sisyphus
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Sisyphus

Claire Berlinski, Ed.: Not surprised by their swift rise to prominence. Surprised that the New York Times has decided to mention it. The article has a "We've always been at war with Oceania" feeling, doesn't it?  · Mar 25 at 12:24pm

In Timesland this is a good development. The Muslim Brotherhood is a YMCA clone that does very nice things for very nice people and only a nasty racist bigot would suggest otherwise. I pity the poor souls who have to read their inane nonsense for work. For those that read it voluntarily, there is a 12 step program somewhere, and if there isn't I will start one.


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Abdiel

We've got diplomats there negotiating with the Egyptian military leaders right? We are hammering them to crush the Brotherhood right? Or at least minimize their influence?

No? Well that's just prime...

Good Berean
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Good Berean

Once the dust settles over all the nations of the Levant, the story will no doubt be the same: Just warming up for the new Holy War.

Edited on Mar 25, 2011 at 1:47pm

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Elizabeth Dunn

I question whether the young, educated secular activists were ever truly at the forefront of the *revolution* at all.

TeeJaw
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TeeJaw

A Pew Poll from last year, which has been discussed on Ricochet, found that significant majorities of Egyptians do not want any form of democracy but want an Islamic theocracy.  So the ascendancy of the Muslim Brotherhood was in the cards all along.  

It’s hard to understand, but a lot of people want nothing to do with freedom.  I guess that makes life easier.  They don’t have to fight for what they want. It just comes.

Sisyphus
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Sisyphus

Abdiel: We've got diplomats there negotiating with the Egyptian military leaders right? We are hammering them to crush the Brotherhood right? Or at least minimize their influence?

No? Well that's just prime... · Mar 25 at 1:25pm

Actually, from Obama's Cairo speech on our government has been singing the praises of the Brotherhood in harmony with the Times.

Aodhan
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Aodhan

On the subject of wanting or not wanting freedom, the contribution of Erich Fromm strikes me as being as relevant as ever. It is neatly summarized here:

http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/fromm.html

My principal quibble with Fromm, understandably, concerns his underlying Marxist outlook. To his credit, he does not denounce capitalism wholesale--it's a mixed bag, according to him, that fosters both individualism and alienation. But he is deaf to the demerits of socialism, both economic and existential. He is also insufficiently appreciative of how a fully free-market system would maximize human liberty.


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nordman

I don't think that anyone around here is surprised, but  the number of people actually paying attention to what is happening constitute only a small minority of the whole.

It truly feels like evil is on the march on the world. On so many different fronts, It appears that things are going  to get much worse before they get better.  I sure would love to find  more evidence to the contrary, but I'm coming up empty. Unsupported wishful  thinking  is all I find.   It would be so nice to feel more optimistic, but it seems that a very large portion of of Western Civilization has embraced  willful blindness, willful ignorance, and willful stupidity. The only thing that is going to stir them out of it is extreme discomfort. 

Edited on Mar 26, 2011 at 4:23am

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