Remember when the federal government banned alcohol? And how everyone looks back on that decision as a horrible mistake involving government overreach and idiocy?

That was a time of restraint and wisdom compared to this.

If you were still under the delusion that America is the land of the free or the home of the brave, you should be no longer.

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Al Sparks

I don't mind as much if a city I don't live in does this, especially if it's so far from where I live.  Or as someone put it, better the tyranny of the mayors than the tyranny of the federal government.

But what's been confusing to me is Bloomberg's authority to do things like this.  Isn't this something that has to be legislated by the council?

I'd be very surprised if Bloomberg ran for a 4th term. His 3rd term run was controversial because it violated a term limits law passed by referendum (the council simply repealed it).

Mama Toad
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Mama Toad

Western Chauvinist

Joseph Eagar: I don't really mind this sort of regulation, but then, I'm allergic to 99.9% of American (and Americanized) food; you have no idea how horrifying it is to walk into a store the size of a small football field and not find a single thing to eat. · 50 minutes ago

You don't really mean that, right Joseph? You don't mean you find certain regulations oppressive only if they affect you personally?

First they came for the Jews and I did nothing... · 15 minutes ago

I find soda repulsive. (I never buy it -- but we make a fabulous beverage with 100% fruit juice and seltzer that we call "Toda Soda" -- our family name is Toder, but here in NY we can say Toda -- that the tadpoles enjoy.)

But this kind of regulation is completely not ok. We can wish that people made what we consider better choices, and think it is wrong for them to choose certain things, but it is not our decision to make for them.

Still and all, I am baffled why so many people think Coca Cola is such a great American brand. Ewww.

Edited on May 31, 2012 at 3:00pm
BrentB67
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BrentB67

Question  for Mollie or other NYC Ricoteers.

I don't live in NYC and not well versed in the politics other than these new regs are outrageous.

1. It seems like Bloomberg has  been mayor for a while, is he eligible to run again?

2. If the answer to #1 is yes what do you think his chances of re-election will be, is there any polling on the matter?

Eeyore
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Eeyore
Mama Toad: I'm confused by something. In front of each soda is a stack of sugar cubes or sugar packets, it appears, meant to illustrate the amount of sugar in each drink. But I thought they used high fructose corn syrup in sodas...

The optics of a pile of sugar cubes are better than a puddle of HFCS.

Eeyore
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Eeyore
BrentB67: It seems like Bloomberg has  been mayor for a while, is he eligible to run again?

He wasn't eligible for his current third term until he spent millions in campaigning for a change in NYC term limits laws. But, unless he does that again, this is his last term.

Pat Sajak

To quote Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!"

Edited on May 31, 2012 at 3:31pm
Paul Erickson
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Paul Erickson

Toughest job in America.

Giuliani
Bloomberg
Mama Toad
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Mama Toad

Eeyore

Mama Toad: I'm confused by something. In front of each soda is a stack of sugar cubes or sugar packets, it appears, meant to illustrate the amount of sugar in each drink. But I thought they used high fructose corn syrup in sodas...

The optics of a pile of sugar cubes are better than a puddle of HFCS. · 29 minutes ago

And also the Mayor will not allow his enlightened view to be disturbed by such minor inconsistencies as actually illustrating what is actually in the beverage he is actually banning.

KarlUB
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KarlUB

Eeyore

Mama Toad: I'm confused by something. In front of each soda is a stack of sugar cubes or sugar packets, it appears, meant to illustrate the amount of sugar in each drink. But I thought they used high fructose corn syrup in sodas...

The optics of a pile of sugar cubes are better than a puddle of HFCS. · 37 minutes ago

Per this conversation, I have an image for Bloomberg. And for the Big Bagel at large, as Taki likes to call NYC:

Glycemic Load of a Bagel
DutchTex
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DutchTex

And on top of that, he does this:

Charlie Rangel Picks Up Bloomberg Endorsement

While Bloomberg's endorsement doesn't surprise me, I'm a little disappointed with Koch. 

Edited on May 31, 2012 at 4:27pm

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Larry3435

SMatthewStolte No no no no no no no. That’s not the right response to this. That’s not the American response to legislation that restricts your rights. The American response is to say: Alright, let’s figure out how to stop this, reverse it, and expand liberty. 

You don’t say: “well, gosh, looks like we aren’t brave any more.” And then curse the liberals or the culture or the kids. · 10 hours ago

Not me.  I've given up.  I don't think the Nanny-Nazis can be stopped any more.  Now, I just figure out ways around them for myself and my family.  It can be done; it just costs a lot. 

Here in LA, for example, the idiot City Council just banned plastic bags under the pretext of preventing litter.  So I went online and ordered 1,000 plastic bags ($25), which will be plenty for my groceries, and leaves me a few to scatter around the grounds of City Hall.  I wouldn't do that myself, of course.  I'll just give them to the Occupiers.

Matthew Gilley
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Matthew Gilley

This is a quintessential Spartanburg meal:  chili cheesburger plate all the way a-plenty (i.e., with onion rings and fries) from the famous Beacon restaurant, all washed down with every drop of sugary-sweet Southern iced tea you can drink. 

C'mon and get it, Mr. Mayor....

~Paules
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~Paules

Congress during the Reagan administration passed a tariff on Japanese motorcycles above 700 cc's.  The legislation was designed to protect Harley-Davidson.  The Japanese responded with a new line of bikes all displacing exactly 699 cc's.  They still dominated the market.  Expect the new size of a Big Gulp to be exactly one milliliter shy of 16 ounces.

Albert Arthur
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Albert Arthur

The city council repealed a term limits law so that Bloomberg could run for a third term. It was a quid pro quo with the quid being Bloomberg's third term and the quo being his support for Christine Quinn to run for mayor after him. At least, that was my understanding of it at the time. Still, when it came to the actual election, the choice was between Bloomberg and Mark Green, the Democrat. I voted for Bloomberg. I can only hope that Green would have made worse decisions that Bloomberg.

BrentB67: Question  for Mollie or other NYC Ricoteers.

I don't live in NYC and not well versed in the politics other than these new regs are outrageous.

1. It seems like Bloomberg has  been mayor for a while, is he eligible to run again?

2. If the answer to #1 is yes what do you think his chances of re-election will be, is there any polling on the matter? · 11 hours ago

CoolHand
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CoolHand
Joseph Eagar: I don't really mind this sort of regulation, but then, I'm allergic to 99.9% of American (and Americanized) food; you have no idea how horrifying it is to walk into a store the size of a small football field and not find a single thing to eat. · 13 hours ago

/Whistle

"There's a flag on the play."

"What's the call gonna be Marty?"

"Looks like, 'Exaggeration of a Tooty Fruity Nature, while in forward motion' Marv."

"That's a two post penalty, if I read the rule correctly."

"Indeed it is Marv, but there's also the addendum from last season that mandates the consumption of a real beef cheese burger before play can resume."

"This game is a harsh mistress Marty."

"Right you are Marv, but rules are rules."

John Marzan
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John Marzan

this is what Michelle Obama's vision of america looks like at the state level.

Joseph Eagar
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Joseph Eagar

Western Chauvinist

Joseph Eagar: I don't really mind this sort of regulation, but then, I'm allergic to 99.9% of American (and Americanized) food; you have no idea how horrifying it is to walk into a store the size of a small football field and not find a single thing to eat. · 50 minutes ago

You don't really mean that, right Joseph? You don't mean you find certain regulations oppressive only if they affect you personally?

First they came for the Jews and I did nothing... · 17 hours ago

Yeah I have rethought that.  You have a point.  The kind of regulations that would produce the sort of food I want would also be highly corporatist--and once corporatism is accepted in one place, it's accepted in all places, and the logical endpoint is a significant loss of freedom (and structural unemployment).

Joseph Eagar
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Joseph Eagar

CoolHand

Joseph Eagar: I don't really mind this sort of regulation, but then, I'm allergic to 99.9% of American (and Americanized) food; you have no idea how horrifying it is to walk into a store the size of a small football field and not find a single thing to eat. · 13 hours ago

/Whistle

"There's a flag on the play."

"What's the call gonna be Marty?"

"Looks like, 'Exaggeration of a Tooty Fruity Nature, while in forward motion' Marv."

That's actually not much of an exaggeration.  The way we universally process food, and certain artificial ingredients are so hard to avoid, is disgusting.   I'd forgotten how deeply the government subsidizes some of those ingredients (e.g. corn syrup), though.

CoolHand
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CoolHand

That's quite right, but I have never heard of anything like an allergy to fructose (IE Corn Syrup).

If you're allergic to HFCS, you've basically gotta eat only stuff you've killed or picked yourself, which seems rather unlikely.

It may not be the best stuff in the world, but like most things you eat, it'll only kill you if you eaten by the railcar load.

Joseph Eagar
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Joseph Eagar

CoolHand: That's quite right, but I have never heard of anything like an allergy to fructose (IE Corn Syrup).

If you're allergic to HFCS, you've basically gotta eat only stuff you've killed or picked yourself, which seems rather unlikely.

It may not be the best stuff in the world, but like most things you eat, it'll only kill you if you eaten by the railcar load. · 19 hours ago

Well, technically it's a food sensitivity induced by other things.  But, yes, corn syrup can have quite nasty effects on me.


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