MSNBC Host and Guest Discuss Use of Violence to Effect Change
The 'progressives' couldn't attain change through Obama. Now it might be time for more drastic measures. The Blaze has the scoop:
“Are things in our country so bad that it might actually be time for revolution?” Dylan Ratigan asked yesterday on his MSNBC show. His unequivocal reply: “The answer is obviously ‘yes.’ The only question is, ‘how to do it?’”
So what kinds of abuses are we obviously going to rise up against? “Wrongful wars,“ ”corrupt economy,“ ”special interest industries,” “the political system itself,“ and ”gerrymandering.”
“To clear our dire problems may require even more drastic solutions,” he said. While introducing his cartoonist guest, Ratigan says those solutions might include “violence or at least the threat thereof.”
Take a look at the MSNBC segment in question. Are these liberals really weighing violence as a viable solution to their problems?
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Jun '10
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I could see a scenario of the nation's campuses, after a year or so of the new House of Representatives, start chanting a lot of what was in the clip. They might then start WTO-protest-style attacks on the usual suspects (banks, I guess Starbucks) across the country.
A lot would depend on the President's response to their "Hey, Obama, we're going to help you Fundamentally Transform America and end the Rethuglican Reich !!!eleventy!!!"
I think they would have a hard time really getting into it if Obama didn't at least hem and haw some "I understand their frustration..." I think they still want his unicorn world and some rebuke from him might defuse the effort, at least for a while.
Jul '10
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I particularly enjoyed Teddy Rall's comment to the effect that a call to change the system entirely would be viewed as Anti-American by the "other side," thus the title (The Anti-American Manifesto) of his tract.
'Course it would Ted. If you want to rip up the American system root and branch, then you are, by definition, Anti-American.
Oct '10
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Diane Ellis, Ed.: The 'progressives' couldn't attain change through Obama. Now it might be time for more drastic measures.
Are these liberals really weighing violence as a viable solution to their problems? ·
This clip is too comedic by half. These two guys, one in a business suit for goodness sake, talking about violent revolution? Give me a break. Besides, they probably helped pass strict gun control laws in their respective jurisdictions, so the best they could do would be a few rocks and bottles, maybe a molotov cocktail or too. I was in the streets in Berkely in the 60s and 70s, and the "blue meanies" took care of our crowd pretty handily back then. They are much better trained these days .
The progressive left should stick to fearmongering about the "radical right". We're are the ones with all the guns, remember?
Re: MSNBC Host and Guest Discuss Use of Violence to Effect Change
Good Berean
This clip is too comedic by half. These two guys, one in a business suit for goodness sake, talking about violent revolution? Give me a break. Besides, they probably helped pass strict gun control laws in their respective jurisdictions, so the best they could do would be a few rocks and bottles, maybe a molotov cocktail or too. I was in the streets in Berkely in the 60s and 70s, and the "blue meanies" took care of our crowd pretty handily back then. They are much better trained these days .
The progressive left should stick to fearmongering about the "radical right". We're are the ones with all the guns, remember? · Nov 9 at 10:58pm
Ha. You're right. Dylan Ratigan cites subway strikes and stalling big rigs on the highways for days on end as examples of violence.
But I wouldn't underestimate the left. They are descendants of the same philosophy that brought about the Bolshevik Revolution.
Jun '10
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It's easy to mock Ratigan, but the mindset he has is more sad than funny. You lose an election and you contemplate violence?
My dad always said never argue with a dumb guy as they run out of ammo pretty quickly and that leaves only a punch. The Left is now out of intellectual ammo and the conversation on MSNBC is sadly what we were up against in the future. We also have a President who is willing to name enemies.
2012 will be an uncivil election year, maybe not violence, but certainly many many nasty encounters on the campaign trail .
Edited on Nov 9, 2010 at 11:22pmOct '10
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The left is not to be underestimated, you are correct. They have been very effective in advancing their agenda. Look at where we are now. The hardcore anarchists are out there, I've seen them in action, and they are very capable of wreking havoc. But the hardcore types hate these kind of guys as much as they hate the right.
Jul '10
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A few radical leftists may take to the streets, but they would do no more than make fools of themselves.
Now, cut the bennies from the millions feeding on the federal teat, then We're talking some revolution action.
Oct '10
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Don't mock! These people started their political careers using violence as their prefererred method of change. Bernadette Dohrn, Bill Ayers, and many others remain unrepentent terrorists. Their organizations once killed innocent people in the name of their collectivist ideology as easily as Che' pulled the trigger on innocent Cuban peasants.
Over the last several decades, Dohrn, Ayers, et al have been making slow but steady process: manipulating useful idiots in the media, congress, and the courts. Maybe they have taken a step back for every two steps forward, but they have not been faced with any significant, permanent roadblocks to their progress. Hence, there has been no need for violence.
Now such a roadblock exists: the utter repudiation of the Obama agenda in the mid-term elections that highlights the "obstinancy" of the American people.... proof that the majority do not share the collectivist dreams of the far left and can and will effectively organize to stop America's slow march to Marxist collectivism.
Do not be naive. Understand that these people will dust off their bombs and guns when they are frustrated and realize that their newer methods are no longer effective.
Aug '10
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Ted Rall was a pulitzer nominated cartoonist ? Says alot about that group.
But the crayon is mightier than the sword.