"Let's Take These Son of a Bitches Out"
“At a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized, at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do, it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds."
--President Barack Obama, calling for "a new era of civility" after the shootings in Arizona, January 12, 2011
"They've got a war, they got a war with us and there's only going to be one winner....President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of bitches out...."
--Teamsters president Jimmy Hoffa, Jr., introducing President Obama at a rally in Detroit, September 5, 2011
How did President Obama respond to Hoffa's introduction? Delivering not one word of disapproval, uttering not a phrase about the "new civility," the President merely offered Hoffa his thanks.
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May '10
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Yes...I remember hearing the Russian version in the Russian general's response to Patton (in the movie) that "I won't drink with you or any other Russian SOB."
May '10
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I just can't get my head around the picture of the quintessential gentleman Peter Robinson next to the words "...son of a b*%%@s..."!
Edited on Sep 6, 2011 at 7:56amMay '10
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Nick Stuart:
The Tea Party-ites will only allow themselves to be pushed so far, for so long and it's really going to get ugly. I'm not promoting disorder, but I am predicting it if events stay on the vector Obama and his union supporters are steering them. · Sep 6 at 5:01am
I believe there is nothing the MSM would love more than to cover some REAL Tea Party violence, as opposed to all the assumed violence the TP has been accused of. Don't take the bait; when your opponent is busy destroying himself, don't get in his way. Don't think independent voters aren't taking note of some of this.
Jan '11
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Real Clear Politics has a video up capturing the ever-charming Debbie Wasserman Schultz's response to the incident. First she ignored it, and then demanded to know how often Republicans denounced all those rotten things said against Democrats. She also repeated the Nancy Pelosi Defense: are you kidding me?
I wouldn't expect the Democrat Party to V8 slap their forehead and acknowledge the hypocrisy of this behavior. They don't see anything wrong. Every real or perceived insult that has ever been thrown against them is now justification for every possible response.It's Hatfield and McCoy time.
They're desperate, which reveals that they know they have a losing case, and they're pounding the table.
Apr '11
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Welcome, Union Brothers and Sisters
"As union history shows, power and greed corrupt....look at what’s happening to the working class in our industrialized cities. These cities are going to hell in a hand basket thanks to corruption, crony capitalism, and the union bosses’ greed. The union bosses derive their power from your union dues and their promise to deliver your votes to whichever politician they’re in bed with...They’re chasing American industry offshore by making outrageous, economically illogical demands that they know will never work. And now that they’ve chased jobs out of union states, they’re trying to chase them out of right-to-work states like South Carolina, so eventually the jobs will leave America altogether....As long as these big corporations have a good crony capitalist in the White House, they can rely on DC to bail them out until the whole system goes bankrupt, which, I am afraid, is not very far off. When big government, big business, and big union bosses collude together, they get government to maximize their own interests against those of the rest of the country."
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Jun '10
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Its one thing for a bunch of Tea Party activists, with NO reported violence against person or property, to use (mildly) martial rhetoric and quite another for a leader of a union with a long history of labor violence, organized crime infiltration, and corrupt officials to exhort his followers to "take the SOB's out." No link can be shown between surveyor's marks or "targets" and the motivation of the Giffords shooter. The links between labor leaders' heated rhetoric and union member violence are simply too obvious to belabor
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You know, Peter, if I had seen that headline next to your name while driving, I would have put all 18 wheels into a ditch.
Aug '10
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It's very fitting that they are backed into a corner, they can't think of any primary candidates, have given the party away to a mixed bag of very greedy progressives, labor types, and enviro-extortionists. I doubt they intended to destroy the Democrat Party, but they have. The Republicans weren't in the best of shape, but the Tea Party will save them.
Meanwhile, they are acting like a cornered animal. Snapping, growling, but not trying any head feints to get out of the room. Maxine Waters exhorts damnation, Hoffa threatens violence, Biden says something unintelligible but edgy. They're not trotting out the A team are they ? Crooked banker, son of a goalpost, and the evergreen Norm Crosby of the Blair House.
Do we want to confront a force that comprises 6.8% of the private sector work force (less the UAW which is now public sector) ? Underwhelming odds there .
How about the entitled unemployed, are they peering from the ramparts or fiddling with their remotes ?
Yawn..........Be sure to check where the police unions are strong before scheduling any rallies, then consider hiring some Pinkertons (or Xe) to watch the perimeter.
SOBs Unite !
Edited on Sep 6, 2011 at 8:14amOct '10
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I love this report from Media Matters on how this was reported by Fox:
The headline says the audio was “doctored”. Doctored? As if Fox spliced together audio to make it sound like Hoffa said “let’s take these sons of bitches out” when he actually didn't.
And do they realize that no one actually believes that he was calling on people to kill tea party Republicans. It’s the fact that he used that language instead of simply saying “vote them out”.
And the final bit of irony is that they keep pointing to Ed Henry's report and his twitter feed as evidence that Fox "doctored" the audio...but Henry works for Fox!
Jan '11
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The Austin paper devoted a full column on page 3 to President Obama's speech ...and said nothing about Hoffa's introductory remarks. Oh, wait. They did call it a "boisterous" Labor Day rally. Maybe that's the new code for Democratic hate speech?
I'm writing them a letter. It will not be published.
Sep '10
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Are any of the House Republican leadership or presidential candidates going to punch back? Or or they going to just supinely let the bullies push them around?
Normally I'd say contact the Justice Department but I guess that's out.
Jan '11
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Maxine Waters, Jimmy Hoffa....and so it goes.
Exactly how many times do conservatives get slapped across the face before they slap back?
Of course, if you read many of the comments above, the most prevalent reaction of conservatives is to - bitch.
Conservatives are in conflict with themselves. They know that the way to stop a bully from pushing them around is not to say the bully is being unfair, or to appeal to his better nature, or to run to mommy or teacher, or to say that in the long run the bully will regret his behavior. They know that the only way to stop a bully is to knock his block off.
But in politics they can't seem to do what they know they have to do. Conservatives refuse to punish their opponents for threatening them.
Maxine Waters should be told that unless she apologizes, the GOP will oppose every legislative initiative supported by the CBC. Every one of them. And the House will cease funding the CBC.
Jimmy Hoffa should be told that unless he apologizes the GOP will introduce bills to make union dues checkoffs illegal in as many jurisdictions as possible.
Jan '11
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Freesmith:
But in politics they can't seem to do what they know they have to do. Conservatives refuse to punish their opponents for threatening them.
I agree with the sentiment, but not the remedy.
We don't want the law used as a political weapon. We should oppose card check because card check is wrong all by itself, not because we can use it against unions. Of course, I'm under no obligation to bend over backwards for these guys, and I won't. But one premise of conservatism is to prevent abusing political power for gain.
If that's not what you were suggesting, ignore my comment.
Jan '11
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KC Mulville
Freesmith:
But in politics they can't seem to do what they know they have to do. Conservatives refuse to punish their opponents for threatening them.
I agree with the sentiment, but not the remedy.
We don't want the law used as a political weapon. We should oppose card check because card check is wrong all by itself, not because we can use it against unions. Of course, I'm under no obligation to bend over backwards for these guys, and I won't. But one premise of conservatism is to prevent abusing political power for gain.
If that's not what you were suggesting, ignore my comment. · Sep 6 at 10:38am
Not so many years ago conservatives lived in the "Shining City on the Hill" and on top of the commanding heights of the culture.
Today we are the ones who have been expelled from those heights and the City is in the hands of amoral barbarians. We are on the plains outside, looking in.
Perhaps, Mr. Mulville, it's time to reappraise our tactics and our strategy.
Perhaps our premises are not conducive to victory.
Perhaps our knives are inadequate in the gunfight.
Dec '10
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Freesmith
Perhaps, Mr. Mulville, it's time to reappraise our tactics and our strategy.
Perhaps our premises are not conducive to victory.
Perhaps our knives are inadequate in the gunfight.
THIS!
I have been saying this for years.
What good is the "moral high ground" when you just end up dead and buried in it?
At some point, you can no longer afford the indulgence (and that's what it is) of designating certain strategies "beyond the pale".
If a man has a gun pointed at you, is it beyond the pale to throw sand in his eyes and punch him in the junk so that you can take out your gun and dispatch him? NO.
In an existential fight, there are no rules.
You win, by any means necessary, or you die.
Those are your choices. Grouse and complain all you like, but when you boil it down, you get those two choices alone.
What's it gonna be guys?
Shall we toss some sand and make our play? Or shall we request a blindfold?
Jan '11
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Coolhand
I had thought that this thread had run dry and checked in just to make sure. I read your comment with surprise and (a kind of) pleasure.
As a thank you for your thoughts and as an encouragement to continue thinking them, may I recommend a slim volume you may have heard about, but didn't know if it would be worthwhile:
"Rules for Radical Conservatives" by "David Kahane" (Michael Walsh)
It is most definitely worthwhile.
freesmith@live.com