Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
Diane Ellis, Ed. ·
Jun 3, 2011 at 3:17pm
Don't shoot me; I'm just the messenger.
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Dec '10
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
Most people don't know the real history anyway. What she is actually conflicting is the poem which is more famous than the facts.
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
I think most people at least are familiar with enough of the details to know that Paul Revere was warning the colonists (that the British are coming!) and not the British...
Dec '10
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
"One if by land and two if by sea" is what we are taught. I always understood that was the signal to him to start his ride and how the word spread from there I am not sure. How does someone answer a question like that if you do not know the exact history? Does it matter if she does not know the exact history? Should she just shut up? Is there an art to dealing with questions when you do not know the answer though everyone will think you should know the answer? Are people who are always able to parry those questions artfully, whether it is Bravo Sierra or fact, indeed the problem in our government?
Jun '10
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
"The messengers cried out the alarm, awakening every house, warning of the British column making its way towards Lexington. In the rider's wake there erupted the peeling of church bells, the beating of drums and the roar of gun shots - all announcing the danger and calling the local militias to action."
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/lexington.htm
Dec '10
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
You could tell in her answer that she was a little unsure and may have even misspoken when she said British and meant colonists, though technically they were British subjects. Thats a lot of scrutiny to endure yet it may be necessary to look more polished, all the time, to gain the confidence of a majority of the electorate, if she runs!
Edited on Jun 3, 2011 at 3:49pmRe: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
Joseph Stanko: "The messengers cried out the alarm, awakening every house, warning of the British column making its way towards Lexington. In the rider's wake there erupted the peeling of church bells, the beating of drums and the roar of gun shots - all announcing the danger and calling the local militias to action."
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/lexington.htm · Jun 3 at 3:39pm
Why are we all focusing on the bells? The most egregious gaffe here is that she claims that Revere went to warn "the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms." Whether he warned with lanterns or bells or gunshots is but a minor detail.
I was under the impression that her tour around the country was in part to help teach the press about America's founding.
Jun '10
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
Funny, that's just what Paul Revere said when he met the British patrol...
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
Joseph Stanko
Funny, that's just what Paul Revere said when he met the British patrol... · Jun 3 at 3:48pm
:-)
May '10
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
At least Revere didn't have to ride through all 57 states.
Aug '10
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
So ?
Let's see the President's term papers .
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
You know who she reminds me of? Honestly? George H. W. Bush.
I remember him once trying to answer a simple question -- what were you thinking after you had been shot down by the Japanese and were bobbing up and down in the Pacific, before your rescue -- and he said something bizarre and just plain weird, like, I was thinking about home and my parents and God, and the separation of church and state. And I remember thinking, What? The separation of church and state? While the sharks were circling?
That said, GHWB had had a full career by then. No one thought he was a lightweight.
But her answer here makes me wonder if -- despite all of the charm and her ability to boil issues down to their essence -- she doesn't over think things too much. Paul Revere's ride was about patriotism and vigilance and courage. Just say that and get out, without trying to make a point about gun rights -- though if communicated properly, there is something to be said about gun rights and the Revolutionary War. But she's going to have to stop bollixing herself up to make it.
Jun '10
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
Diane Ellis, Ed.
Why are we all focusing on the bells? The most egregious gaffe here is that she claims that Revere went to warn "the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms." Whether he warned with lanterns or bells or gunshots is but a minor detail.
I was under the impression that her tour around the country was in part to help teach the press about America's founding. · Jun 3 at 3:43pm
Because the clip you posted concludes in a patronizing voice "well the history books tell us there were not any bells."
I honestly didn't notice the other the first time I listened to it, I thought she just stumbled on her words while trying to say "warned the colonists that the British were coming to take away their arms." Perhaps I'm just sympathetic because I stumble over words all the time, and I'm never even on camera...
Oct '10
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But Rob. . .she could destroy the political elite. Don't tell me you aren't tempted. . .it's healthy to replace the elite from time to time.
In seriousness, I guess she isn't presidential material. But anti-elitism is still running high, and if she at least manages to shake up the American elite she would have done us all a great service.
Jun '10
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
No, Revere's ride was about warning the patriots that the British were coming to "confiscate weapons stored in the village of Concord." That's hardly tangential to the story.
And seriously, how many Congressmen, if you asked them "why were the British marching to Concord," would know the correct answer?
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
Rob Long:
Paul Revere's ride was about patriotism and vigilance and courage. Just say that and get out, without trying to make a point about gun rights...
There's always a way to fake one's way gracefully through an answer to a question that one does not know the answer to. Everyone in the public eye -- but especially folks that the press hates -- should polish up that skill.
Jun '10
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
"Don't shoot me; I'm just the messenger." ...and quite the gleeful one, I might add.
Edited on Jun 3, 2011 at 4:15pmRe: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
Joseph Stanko
No, Revere's ride was about warning the patriots that the British were coming to "confiscate weapons stored in the village of Concord." That's hardly tangential to the story.
And seriously, how many Congressmen, if you asked them "why were the British marching to Concord," would know the correct answer? · Jun 3 at 4:03pm
Right. I'm really not criticizing her so much as noticing that when she isn't totally clear about what she means -- and she's not here -- she gets zero slack. Unlike a lot of other officially-approved pols. It just means that she has to try extra hard to be clear, all the time. (And we can agree that it's unfair, but there's not much she can do about it...) And what's interesting to me is that she's perhaps the most direct and clear-speaking politician in America most of the time.
Jun '10
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
Rob Long
Right. I'm really not criticizing her so much as noticing that when she isn't totally clear about what she means -- and she's not here -- she gets zero slack. Unlike a lot of other officially-approved pols. It just means that she has to try extra hard to be clear, all the time. (And we can agree that it's unfair, but there's not much she can do about it...) And what's interesting to me is that she's perhaps the most direct and clear-speaking politician in America most of the time. · Jun 3 at 4:16pm
Yes, I see what you mean. In that respect she reminds me more of W. than Bush 41. W. was always direct and clear-speaking too, agree or disagree you always knew where he stood, what his principles were, what he believed in. Even so, watching him in the debates was painful: I knew what he was trying to say, and usually agreed, but he sure did try extra hard to say it properly.
Mar '11
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
Re: Lessons in America's Founding with Sarah Palin
Basil Fawlty
Diane Ellis, Ed.
There's always a way to fake one's way gracefully through an answer to a question that one does not know the answer to. Jun 3 at 4:05pm
Perhaps the distaff Ricochet editors might consider conducting a seminar . . .? · Jun 3 at 4:31pm
Much harder to conduct a seminar in the topic using the written word since it's easier to see through bologna when it's written out than when it's spoken. Perhaps at the next Rico Soiree :)