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The Washington Post's Jennifer Rubin has taken some heat around these parts over the past few months for many of the pieces she's written about the candidates, favorable and unfavorable. Today, The Daily Caller's Mickey Kaus asks her about the recent pieces she's written about Rick Santorum. Her answer may surprise many of you. Then, a lively debate about Santorum's rise (and just how far he'll go), how Romney holds on, whose party can better bring back manufacturing jobs, and close with the prospect of a third party entering the fray. 

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Mel Foil
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etoiledunord

Some Catholics raised in the Church in recent decades (Late 1970s, 1980s, Early 1990s) are not too familiar with the new constellation of Catholic teaching, which is really the old constellation of Catholic teaching revived. They learned that rules could be fudged. So, I guess it's natural for people in the press to misunderstand the new (old) Catholicism. After Vatican II, the American Catholic Church (like the baby boomers the Church served) was busy "finding itself," and wasn't looking toward Rome so much to do it. That led to a lot of rebellion, and poor teaching. Now, a growing number of Catholics (cradle, convert, and revert) are rediscovering the wisdom and the beauty of Catholic faithfulness. It's why I joined the Catholic Church in 2011. I just happened to pick a very good time to do it. There's a rebirth of faithfulness.

So, the "problem" with Rick Santorum is that he's a 2012 Catholic, which is to say, a 1962 Catholic without so much Latin--not a groovy 1970s Catholic, and that freaks some people out. In sh0rt, people look at Santorum, and say (to themselves) "too Catholic."

Edited on February 25, 2012 at 1:03am
Nick Stuart
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Nick Stuart

Gosh, this neanderthal has completely forgot how to download podcasts.

Mel Foil
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etoiledunord
Nick Stuart: Gosh, this neanderthal has completely forgot how to download podcasts. · 16 minutes ago

I heard the podcast. If I was really a Neanderthal,  I'd say "a man needs a feminist like a bicycle needs a fish," but I won't say that. :)

billy
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billy

Santorum's 0% tax rate for manufacturing may be bad economics, but it"s great politics.

Duane Oyen
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Duane Oyen

Why do we need manufacturing jobs per se?  We need a vigorous economy, one that is competitive in producing the things we invent and need; we still dominate the world in manufacturing.  But focusing on jobs rather than output is an encouragement to be inefficient.

I don't want to keep old manufacturing jobs- I want to generate new ones.  The two are not the same.

Franco
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Franco

Oh God, I can't take it anymore. I took a break after "from the right side of the political spectrum" I'm getting confused as to "sides" these days, and Jen isn't helping. And then I was told I'd be "surprised" at Rubin's views on Santorum. I wasn't. Then there is the relentless advocate persona Rubin exhudes. I always feel like I'm in a court of law and the prosecutor is talking and and I keep wanting to "object" at these incredible overstatements she makes, and it never stops. If Newt Gingrich was female, slightly angrier, and taking meth, he's sound like Jennifer Rubin.

billy
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billy
Franco:  I always feel like I'm in a court of law and the prosecutor is talking and and I keep wanting to "object" at these incredible overstatements she makes, and it never stops.

This podcast would be a lot better with a moderator, like Troy Senik on Law Talk. Kaus and Rubin make a lot of big assertions, and since they tend to agree with each other, they don't really back them up at all.


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Bill Dunne

That must be Jennifer Rubin and Mickey Kaus in the photo, but why does it look like it was taken in the 1940s?


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MJMack

Marshall Crenshaw to take us out. Nicely done, Yeti.

Blue Yeti
Bill Dunne: That must be Jennifer Rubin and Mickey Kaus in the photo, but why does it look like it was taken in the 1940s? · 1 hour ago

It was meant as a play on the title of the episode. 

Blue Yeti

billy

Franco:  I always feel like I'm in a court of law and the prosecutor is talking and and I keep wanting to "object" at these incredible overstatements she makes, and it never stops.

This podcast would be a lot better with a moderator, like Troy Senik on Law Talk. Kaus and Rubin make a lot of big assertions, and since they tend to agree with each other, they don't really back them up at all. · 1 hour ago

Interesting idea.  Not sure who would do it, but worth thinking about. Thanks. 

Blue Yeti
MJMack: Marshall Crenshaw to take us out. Nicely done, Yeti. · 44 minutes ago

One of my all time favorites.  Hope you all caught the title of the song. 


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Haakon Dahl

I believe this is the show which used to have David Limbaugh as the "right", and the ostensible purpose was to convince Kaus that he was actually a conservative.  Back in the day, I figured out real quick that the problem with Kaus wasn't that he is a liberal, but that he is unprincipled.  It may be fun or profitable or something, but it is pointless to try to convince those who have no principles.  One may as well attempt to impregnate a mailbox.  Kaus flows effortlessly from disproven premise to disproven premise with no shame or sense of having lost anything beyond the time it takes to record a podcast.

Which is interesting, because that's the same thing I got from the experience.

Basil Fawlty
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Basil Fawlty

Blue Yeti

billy

Franco:  I always feel like I'm in a court of law and the prosecutor is talking and and I keep wanting to "object" at these incredible overstatements she makes, and it never stops.

This podcast would be a lot better with a moderator, like Troy Senik on Law Talk. Kaus and Rubin make a lot of big assertions, and since they tend to agree with each other, they don't really back them up at all. · 1 hour ago

Interesting idea.  Not sure who would do it, but worth thinking about. Thanks.  · 7 hours ago

Richard Epstein?


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Haakon Dahl

Basil Fawlty

Blue Yeti

billy

Franco:  I always feel like I'm in a court of law and the prosecutor is talking and and I keep wanting to "object" at these incredible overstatements she makes, and it never stops.

This podcast would be a lot better with a moderator, like Troy Senik on Law Talk. Kaus and Rubin make a lot of big assertions, and since they tend to agree with each other, they don't really back them up at all. · 1 hour ago

Interesting idea.  Not sure who would do it, but worth thinking about. Thanks.  · 7 hours ago

Richard Epstein? · 9 minutes ago

That would be a Modulator.

PracticalMary
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PracticalMary

Media people interviewing each other...yawn. I have never understood why there is so much of this.

Mothership_Greg
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Mothership_Greg
PracticalMary: Media people interviewing each other...yawn. I have never understood why there is so much of this. · 21 minutes ago

God bless you.

Blue Yeti
PracticalMary: Media people interviewing each other...yawn. I have never understood why there is so much of this. · 3 hours ago

Because they have existing audiences and platforms to promote their show. 

Leslie Watkins
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Sep '10
Leslie Watkins

I've loved this podcast from the beginning and continue to eagerly wait for it because the views expressed are those of the middle, and in a public policy sense the middle is where you go to see what's possible. It's obviously bad that the media holds so much sway over the public mindset—my sister, who like me is on the near side of sixty, was seething with rage the other evening over the idea that religious zealots are trying to take away birth control (I reminded her that we used to pay for the pill ourselves back when health insurance was hospitalization and not health care, but it moved her not at all). Nonetheless, I think Mickey hit on the reason why the media is able to have this impact: the power of identity. He cannot identify with voting for a Republican. It might even make him throw up. Even for Mickey reason is less powerful than attachment, i.e., emotion. This is useful for personal survival but not so much when it comes to the public realm. If the right focuses on religion in a public sense it will lose every time.

The New Clear Option
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The New Clear Option
Leslie Watkins: If the right focuses on religion in a public sense it will lose every time. · 3 hours ago

You mean, if the media focuses our attention on the Right as religious people operating in a public sense, right? 


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