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KC Mulville
Joined
Jan '11
KC Mulville

Lawrence O'Donnell is The Left, personified. He's openly socialist, condescendingly elitist, and will spin anything without remorse.

Right after OBL was killed, there was a brief interval when no one had yet politicized it (not counting Obama's announcement). We all knew that wouldn't last long. Sure enough, O'Donnell was the first one (that I saw) who tried to turn it into a liberal triumph. I happened to catch a segment where O'Donnell tried to peddle the notion that Obama succeeded where Bush didn't, because Obama's administration was mature and played well together, whereas Bush's team was rife with petty bureaucratic battles. 

When O'Donnell leans forward and offers his spin, he's "informing" his audience, quite literally in the sense of instructing them what to think. He's not offering it for their consideration, or attempting to persuade. He's demanding you see it his way. That arrogance is constantly on display here. 

Condoleezza Rice showed her class. It was pleasant to see.

River
Joined
Aug '10
River

Condoleeza is not someone to be trifled with, and O'Donnell can't compete with her. His pride and conceit will crumble in time.

Franco
Joined
Sep '10
Franco

KC Mulville: Lawrence O'Donnell is The Left, personified. He's openly socialist, condescendingly elitist, and will spin anything without remorse.

Right after OBL was killed, there was a brief interval when no one had yet politicized it (not counting Obama's announcement). We all knew that wouldn't last long. Sure enough, O'Donnell was the first one (that I saw) who tried to turn it into a liberal triumph. I happened to catch a segment where O'Donnell tried to peddle the notion that Obama succeeded where Bush didn't, because Obama's administration was mature and played well together, whereas Bush's team was rife with petty bureaucratic battles. 

When O'Donnell leans forward and offers his spin, he's "informing" his audience, quite literally in the sense of instructing them what to think. He's not offering it for their consideration, or attempting to persuade. He's demanding you see it his way. That arrogance is constantly on display here. 

Condoleezza Rice showed her class. It was pleasant to see. · May 6 at 5:52am

100% agree.  I can't believe there are people who can like this guy. Obermann is smarter and has more charm...

Edited on May 6, 2011 at 6:20am
Johannes Allert
Joined
Dec '10
Johannes Allert

Dr. Rice displayed professionalism during his inquisition. I would have asked "Did you invite me to appear so you could interrupt, put words in my mouth and invalidate my experience?"  The last question is the most interesting and leads to the debate -- Is the current spate of events a bi-product or result of Iraq, or would time have taken care of things anyway?  I assert the former and believe one resulted in another. Once the Iraqis had some level of freedom, the others in the region wanted some too. The Iraq war might not have been pretty enough for the Left to embrace, but which wars are?  Like it or not and for better or worse, wars result in social and political change. 

Edited on May 6, 2011 at 5:18pm
Dave Molinari
Joined
Jun '10
Dave Molinari

Yes, she did a great job with a ridiculous interviewer.  I love libs who want to plan foreign policy based on the tool of hindsight.  

flownover
Joined
Aug '10
flownover

WHO watches msnbc ? I mean their numbers must be in the toilet with the trained seals that they have hired. I can't believe that this guy, Mathews, and Maddow aren't just actors hired to run their mouths according to journolist and Markos . 

I imagine they're hoping that the kids coming out college, where Zinn and Chomsky write the $150 books they have to buy for their history courses, might be watching and therefore they have some ratings to sell the soap by, or they are mightily subsidized by the present government, failing that Soros, et al during the GOP admins. Oh, wait, GE owns it ! ah ha !

Why do they bother, can't they just watch Amanpour and Stephanopoulos for the same attitudinal asinine rigidity ?

Dan Holmes
Joined
Sep '10
Dan Holmes

Woof.  Too bad she only wants to run for NFL Commissioner. 

Aaron Miller
Joined
May '10
Aaron Miller

Why is it only retired Republicans who stand up to the liberal press this way?

tabula rasa
Joined
Jun '10
tabula rasa

I think it's hilarious that O'Donnell would air that interview.  It's like having a video of someone kicking the crap out of you that you air solely for the purpose of showing how well you can take a punch.  Go, Condi--good old-fashioned butt-kicking.

From my perspective as a lawyer, you never ask a question like, "Please admit that you are stupid."  Was he dumb enough to believe that Rice would agree with that type of question. A first year law student would know that his questions would result in answers that would make O'Donnell look stupid.

O'Donnell is such a hack he obviously has no sense that he got cleaned nor does he have the ability to experience embarrassment.

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Todd
Joined
Oct '10
tms

Dr. Rice handled herself brilliantly.

I don't know why, but I kind of like Lawrence O'Donnell.  He seems to be more honest than the others.  And I respect the fact that he acknowledged that he is indeed a socialist. 

If I was going to be tortured and had to choose between watching Olbermann, Maddow or O'Donnell, it's not even close, I would choose O'Donnell. 

Dan Hanson
Joined
Aug '10
Dan Hanson

My only wish is that when O'Donnell brought up Libya, Condoleeza would have pointed out that it sure is nice that Libya doesn't have a nuclear weapons program to threaten anyone with - because Khadaffi gave it up after he saw what happened to Saddam. 

She could also have made the point that Saddam's Iraq was actually a stabilizing force for other dictatorships in the Middle East, and that it's very possible that the Arab uprisings that are taking place are in part a response to seeing their neighbors in Iraq running their own country without a dictator threatening them.

Edited on May 6, 2011 at 1:35pm
Franco
Joined
Sep '10
Franco

She threatened early to end the interview, this gives us an important clue. Who needs the interview more? Obviously it's O'Donnell.

It now is a win-win for people like Condi or Breitbart to go on these MSNBC shows. There is nothing to lose, the entire audience has it's mind made up anyway, however an interview like this has to shake up some of their foundational tropes.

But secondary viewings on the web can reach a larger audience than the  original *broadcast*  audience. Once outside the cult of MSNBC die-hards, the interview makes O'Donnell and MSNBC look like a joke regardless of one's position on Iraq. Same with the Bashir/Breitbart interview. It's not so much the content - it shows up these partisans as self-righteous, unfair and desperate.

The larger audeince sees O'Donnell as a true believer who is so insulated in his cult he can't see how moronic he comes off akes sweeping statements without a thought look ridiculous to the wider more objective audience on the web.

Pseudodionysius
Joined
Sep '10
Pseudodionysius

Lawrence got p'owned by a girl.

"No, I have a question for you."

"We don't have time for all that history."

"You have a bad habit Lawrence of Arabia of running your mouth in fifth gear, while your brain hasn't started up yet. Try ethanol. Preferably in suppository form."

Edited on May 6, 2011 at 2:01pm
Nathaniel Wright
Joined
Aug '10
Nathaniel Wright

I have considered Larry O'Scary beneath contempt after his treatment of Cathy Seipp on the old Dennis Miller Show.  Cathy was a witty and wonderful woman who -- along with her welcoming circle of friends --  made Los Angeles feel like home to me.  O'Scary is an angry blowhard.

FeliciaB
Joined
May '10
FeliciaB

Wow.  This Lawrence character is dumber than a stump!

Rob Long

tms: Dr. Rice handled herself brilliantly.

I don't know why, but I kind of like Lawrence O'Donnell.  He seems to be more honest than the others.  And I respect the fact that he acknowledged that he is indeed a socialist. 

If I was going to be tortured and had to choose between watching Olbermann, Maddow or O'Donnell, it's not even close, I would choose O'Donnell.  · May 6 at 1:24pm

I agree.  I like Lawrence.  Full disclosure: he's a friend of mine.  We don't agree on much, politically, but he's a nice guy and a great storyteller.

On the other hand, he's no match for Condi Rice.  And she did it all with a smile on her face.  I'd hate to be on the receiving end of that particular smile.

Mark Wilson
Joined
May '10
Mark Wilson

Rob Long

I agree.  I like Lawrence.  Full disclosure: he's a friend of mine.  We don't agree on much, politically, but he's a nice guy and a great storyteller.

A nice guy?  He must be playing a character on TV then, because when I watch him he acts like a jerk toward his conservative guests, throwing inflammatory questions at them and mocking them with caustic sarcasm after they have left.

Edited on May 6, 2011 at 3:14pm

Joined
Mar '11
Abdiel

Condoleezza came off wonderfully here.

MSNBC has a blatantly defeatist slant in all of its reporting. MSNBC has clearly chosen to market itself exclusively to a far-left audience. I do wish our politicians would stop accepting invitations for interviews by these guys. No reason to offer them content to slant. Boycotts exist for organizations like this.

CJRun
Joined
Dec '10
CJRun

 Quick, name a person of the ardent left that would appear in an extended interview with an aggresive interviewer.  Schumer?  Durbin?  Reid?  Wasserman?  Gorelick?  Clinton?    Bader-Ginsburg?  Obama?

It just doesn't happen, from what I have observed.  Yes, conservatives get beaten up in these circumstances, but at least some of them stand on principle and many will appear.


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