EJHill · May 2, 2012 at 11:09pm

The Occupy Cleveland Five.

The Cleveland Five

Sorry, girls, but these magnificent specimens of American Liberal Manhood, er... Metrosexuality... eh... Oh, you know what I mean! Anyway, these boys are off the market.

They tried to buy several C-4 IEDs and blow up a major bridge yesterday by texting a detonation code from their cell phones. But because our Occupy heroes are as smart as they are handsome they purchased their goods from an undercover FBI agent.

In a rare moment of candid self assessment, Occupy Cleveland member Robin Adelmann told The Cleveland Plain Dealer, "They're like an offshoot, and they're not part of this -- especially now that we know what they were up to." (Emphasis mine)

Adelmann also complained about the movement's lack of... well, movement. "Lately it's been very nonexistent," Adelmann said. "The public is a bit bored with us."

What do expect when all your hotties are behind bars?

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The Great Adventure!
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The Great Adventure!

Careful EJ - you don't want to cross the line to Occuporn.

Mel Foil
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etoiledunord

But...the reason these guys aren't comfortable millionaires is that some rich guy on Wall Street stole their million dollars. That makes them so angry. Ask them. They'll tell you.

Percival
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Percival

A quintet of melonheads who thought V for Vendetta was a documentary.

tabula rasa
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tabula rasa

Wouldn't you love to see one of those guys on the doorstep coming to take your daughter on a date?

John Murdoch
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John Murdoch

These guys probably aren't going to found a Mensa chapter in the Big House--but one gets a sense that the "undercover FBI informant" that the news stories mention seems to have egged these guys on a bit

The men had considered different plots, including trying to bring down financial institution signs in downtown Cleveland or attacking other targets, including a law enforcement center, oil wells, a cargo ship or the opening of a new downtown casino, according to the affidavit. The document also alleges that one suspect talked about being part of group planning to cause trouble during an upcoming NATO summit in Chicago.

I'd be very interested to hear commentary from members of the Ricochet bar (which is not to say, "patrons of the Ricochet saloon") about this type of investigation. If a handful of knuckleheads gets started with a can-you-top-this contest to demonstrate their radical bona fides, where's the line between telling them they're stupid and suggesting that you "know a guy who..." and leading them on?

Mollie Hemingway, Ed.

John Murdoch: These guys probably aren't going to found a Mensa chapter in the Big House--but one gets a sense that the "undercover FBI informant" that the news stories mention seems to have egged these guys on a bit

I'd be very interested to hear commentary from members of the Ricochet bar (which is not to say, "patrons of the Ricochet saloon") about this type of investigation. If a handful of knuckleheads gets started with a can-you-top-this contest to demonstrate their radical bona fides, where's the line between telling them they're stupid and suggesting that you "know a guy who..." and leading them on? · 1 minute ago

To answer your question, I almost tweeted out today how impressed I was with no Tea Partiers indicted for bomb plots given that surely there were countless FBI agents encouraging them to do so.

Fred Cole
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Fred Cole

Do we have enough details yet to know if blowing something up was their idea or if it was yet another case of the FBI entrapping them?

EJHill
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Mr. Murdoch - Ah, the old entrapment defense. That doesn't hold water, for the Cleveland Five, home-grown jihadists or even guys picking up hookers.

The bottom line is that there is a black market for things that go boom and kill people. The FBI has folks out in the field that try to get between the willing buyers and the willing sellers. Would you rather they not be there to intercept?

Indaba
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Indaba

Thank you for the laugh.

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

This is an extremely odd development. For many, many years, the scions of the left have been warning us that it will be neo-nazis, confederate flag marchers, Rush Limbaugh listeners, John Birchers (where do you find those folks other than in fossilized remains on display at museums?), Ryanites and other knuckle dragging throwbacks to a pre cambrian past.

What happened?

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

These guys really need to Occupy The Hair Salon and get their money back.

Percival
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Percival

Whenever one runs into someone offering to sell some C-4, it is a good idea to say "no thank you" in a clear audible voice and leave as soon as possible. 

Calling the FBI on your way home would be a nice touch.

That might, however, be further into both the alphabet and the number system than any of these rocket scientists have penetrated before.

John Murdoch
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EJHill: Ah, the oldentrapment defense.... Would you rather they not be there to intercept? 

I'm delighted that the FBI was there to stop the plot. I'm just worried that in their zeal to stop it, the FBI (and the reported criminal informant) didn't help them along. The media reports all seem to suggest that these clowns started with the idea of knocking down signs atop buildings in Cleveland for big banks. Somehow or other that morphed into planting what they thought was C4 at the base of a bridge.

I'd love to hear a criminal defense attorney discuss the rules of entrapment, and how/where the lines are drawn. Particularly in the modern context of the Patriot Act vis-a-vis the traditional understanding that talk was cheap. 

In this case (as, I think, in one of the New York City plots) the knuckleheads went all the way to planting the bomb and pushing the button. Is that still a necessary part of such a case? Or can a terrorism arrest be made for, in essence, aggravated beer talk?

Misthiocracy
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tabula rasa: Wouldn't you love to see one of those guys on the doorstep coming to take your daughter on a date? · 3 hours ago
Bill Gates Mug Shot

<devil's advocate mode = on>

How would you feel about this guy on your doorstep coming to take your daughter on a date?

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EJHill
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John Murdoch I'm just worried that in their zeal to stop it, the FBI  didn't help them along.

I don't think the FBI informants are in these gatherings saying, "Let's blow up a bridge! Who's with me!?!" They're in there listening and when somebody says, "Let's blow up a bridge!" they say, "Are you serious?"

If the answer is yes, then they tell them they know a guy who can supply - for a price.  Then you get those that are inclined to violence and more importantly you get those willing to fund it.

EJHill
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Misthiocracy  How would you feel about this guy (Bill Gates) on your doorstep coming to take your daughter on a date?

He's still a liberal Democrat, so, "No, thank you." I'd rather her marry a poor conservative like myself. Looks and money aren't everything. (Take it from a man with neither.)

DocJay
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One of these classy fellows went by the nickname "Scabby"

tabula rasa
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tabula rasa

Misthiocracy

tabula rasa: Wouldn't you love to see one of those guys on the doorstep coming to take your daughter on a date? · 3 hours ago

<devil's advocate mode = on>

How would you feel about this guy on your doorstep coming to take your daughter on a date?

<devil's advocate mode = off> · 2 hours ago

Nice looking young man, just made a mistake, would love him for a son-in-law.  I'm not stupid.

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy

tabula rasa

Misthiocracy

tabula rasa: Wouldn't you love to see one of those guys on the doorstep coming to take your daughter on a date? · 3 hours ago

<devil's advocate mode = on>

How would you feel about this guy on your doorstep coming to take your daughter on a date?

<devil's advocate mode = off> · 2 hours ago

Nice looking young man, just made a mistake, would love him for a son-in-law.  I'm not stupid. · 1 minute ago

I dunno. He kinda looks like a sex offender in that photo, IMHO, and those "Occupy" lads could easily be confused for highly-paid computer nerds.

Edited on May 2, 2012 at 10:08pm
Casey
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Casey
tabula rasa: Wouldn't you love to see one of those guys on the doorstep coming to take your daughter on a date? · 6 hours ago

I wouldn't be too concerned.  Odds are he wouldn't want to leave the doorstep for several months.


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