I don't know her politics any more than Emma Watson's, but admire both for being child stars who turned out pretty sane, which is rare.

Just something about her

Here with commentary from our good friend Allahpundit at Hot Air, we see cringe comedy at its finest, as her director waxes philosophical about his admiration for Hitler.  Were I to live-blog her thoughts consistent with the Code of Conduct, they would be roughly:

How do I get out of this suddenly horrible situation while appearing polite?  What is he doing?  Is he insane?  I thought we were supposed to be plugging a movie.  Nobody warned me about this.  Can somebody please ask me a question soon, so I can roll my eyes and the audience will laugh in relief?

Charming.  She's good people in my book, and feel vindicated at stalwartly defending her like a preux chevalier on the Oscar Night chat.

 Note to Lars von Trier: There's a good way to do Nazi movies: Iron Sky.

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Bill Walsh

Were you saying something? I'm just…

kind of…

distracted…

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Kennedy Smith
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 Hey, that'll happen, with both meself and Allahpundit.  Guess the sort of vague hand-waving point (aside from always having a place for Kirsten in our hearts) is that we've had a rash of good pro-American behavior from Hollywood lately.  Jon Stewart, Martin Short, Rob Long...

Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith

 UPDATE (IN ALL CAPS!!!!!!!): Lars von Trier disinvited to Cannes Film Festival, over Hitler-love and making Kirsten Dunst uncomfortable.  But mainly, one hopes, over making Kirsten Dunst uncomfortable.  That's not cool, dude.

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StickerShock

 Did I miss something?  I see Dunst looking equally like as ass.  She should have taken away his mic & forcefully condemned his comments.  She has a mic in front of her and is too cowardly (or stupid) to use it.  All that video shows is her discomfort with the awkwardness of the situation.  She comes across as a wimp while grinning like a fool.

Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith
StickerShock: She should have taken away his mic & forcefully condemned his comments.  · May 19 at 8:12am

Really?  Not something I would do at a cocktail party.  Just look embarrassed for him and think "not inviting this guy again".  She was laughing to her friends offstage her were lending sympathetic Whaaaaaa???? expressions.  She was thinking "I know, I know, thanks for your support during this difficult time, guys."

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 She was on a dais as part of a panel promoting her film!  She was in front of a mic but shose not to use it.  It wasn't a cocktail party in someone's living room for gosh sakes.  She came across as a real timid bimbo.  And even if you don't think she should have expressed her horror at the comments, why would laughing be an appropriate response?

Sorry --- I think you are letting her beauty cloud your judgment.  She's not impressive at all.

Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith

 Your reaction would not be the same as mine, or hers apparently.  I think she made it very clear that he was being a total ass (in the donkey, Wodehousean sense).  He was obviously embarrassed by the way she was looking at him.

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That poor woman.  I found myself wanting to find some way to get her off the dais.  She keeps looking offstage to her publicist as if to get some magic StarTrek transport out of there.  All the while, I kept expecting that loony, Nazi (he said it himself!) director to tell the world he was also a pedophile who loved to photograph children.  

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Sticker, I think you've failed to realize a very important fact of life with actors.  We find it very difficult to do public speaking when the lines aren't already written out for us.  Deep down, most actors are introverts (I know, hard to believe) who would rather not be the focus of attention all of the time.  I completely understand Ms. Dunst not grabbing a mic (that's how you abbreviate the word, Kennedy) and shouting the director down.  It just ain't done if you want to keep working.  The shouting and dramatics weren't written in the script.

Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith

 Beam me up!  Where's the exit.  This is what is meant by cringe comedy.  Not comfortable.  Not atall.  But it makes you wanna help her.

Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith

 That's how other people abbreviate the word, not having good ears.  "Mic" is pronounced mick.  Which is just racist and I won't stand for it.  Enough to make me rip away the mike and denounce somebody.

James Lileks

Kennedy: I didn't see this post before I put up something about it at the newspaper blog, and I too ended with Iron Sky. Great minds, etc. Why that movie has to beg for investors I can't imagine. 

As for Dunst, I'm still harboring a grudge about the first Spider-Man movie. Making her the girl next door, skipping over Gwen Stacy - no respect for the classics. Especially when the actress who played Betty Brant, who should have been the love interest, made Dunst look like a pumpkin with vampire teeth stuck in the mouth. 

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 Felica, my daughter is an actress and would have had no trouble calmly -- without any shouting or dramatics -- reaching over & pulling his mic toward her and articulating a firm condemnation of his statements.   Do you really believe for one minute that stating you do not support Hitler or the Holocaust is some brave, edgy statement that would put an actress on a black list? 

Dunst could even have spoken into her own mic, right in front of her face, instead of engaging in the childish face-making and eye rolling and looking back for help.  That was at least when she wasn't wearing a silly grin.  She's an adult, right?

Kennedy -- Who suggested ripping his mic away?

Instugator
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Instugator

Hmmm, I don't know what all the fuss is about, but it cannot be regarding the murder of millions. It seems to me that a great many of those folks support an ideology that was responsible for between 100M and 200M deaths in the 20th century alone. The only difference between National Socialists and other Socialists/ Green party folks is racism - their entire worldview is murderous in nature.

No wonder it took them more than a day to ban the dude or that Kirsten was unable to forcefully confront the guy. Even here, Mickey Kaus claims to be a Marxist and Limbaugh is merely flustered and can't get a grip on the idea. Had Kaus claimed to be a National Socialist, he might have done better, I suppose - but no matter, Marxists and Marxist sympathizers are even more murderous - they just don't get credit for it.

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StickerShock:  Kennedy -- Who suggested ripping his mic away? · May 19 at 4:56pm

I'm afraid you did:

StickerShock:  Did I miss something?  I see Dunst looking equally like as ass.  She should have taken away his mic & forcefully condemned his comments.  She has a mic in front of her and is too cowardly (or stupid) to use it.  All that video shows is her discomfort with the awkwardness of the situation.  She comes across as a wimp while grinning like a fool. · May 19 at 8:12am

(My emphasis.)

Give the girl a break. He's grinning like a fool, half self-deprecating, and she's probably hoping this is all a long and complicated joke which will be resolved with an apt punchline that will clear everything up.

Criticising her for failing to publicly act, on the spur of the moment, in a heroically unsociable way against the man from whom she's taken close direction for the last couple of months is in my view unfair.

Criticising her for signing up to do a movie by Lars (Antichrist, The Idiots) von Trier, however, might be a different matter.

Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith

 See, she didn't need to confront him directly.  Her withering looks and embarrassed frustration were all that was needed.  And in the end, she won.  Being a woman.

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Stephen Dawson

Iron Sky ... Nazi's on the moon ... who'd have thought of that?

Why, Robert Anson Heinlein did, of course, back in 1947 in his first 'juvenile' novel, Rocket Ship Galileo.

Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith

 Kirsten is very girl-next-doory, though.  As a Batman purist, these Marvel discrepancies don't bother me.  Great Odin's Ravens.  But since you bring up vampire teeth, wellll, here's a really fun scene from her first major role.

I think it's safe to say Lars von Trier is in the same position as her piano teacher.

Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith

Stephen Dawson: Iron Sky ... Nazi's on the moon ... who'd have thought of that?

Why, Robert Anson Heinlein did, of course, back in 1947 in his first 'juvenile' novel, Rocket Ship Galileo. · May 19 at 5:33pm

You say juvenile like it's a bad thing.


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