Hey, what's the problem with real world consequences to your bad ideas when you're a smug, snarky, sanctimonious ideologue? Nothing! If you've just killed the kids-only insurance market, that must be the insurance companies' fault - because apparently their assets are a bottomless public good, meant to be dispersed with Santa-like abandon. Oh, wait a minute - if Santa were an insurer, Naughty would be an undeniable pre-existing condition.

Time to remember the wisdom of CS Lewis: "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

What I loathe most about the left is how fundamentally immoral they are, and how willing to sacrifice real human beings on the altar of their pretentions.

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Wordcooper

So who is The Head? We know that Biden is the Director, wandering the halls all hours frightening the interns and droning gibberish. Obama is the earnest neophyte (maybe). Do they have Alinsky's head in a dungeon under the White House that they worship every night? Clinton would have to be Miss Hardcastle.

Anyone else read "That Hideous Strength" lately? Fortunately, it doesn't seem quiet as strong lately.

Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith

A Libertarian rallying cry for the ages! Made it my Facebook status (high praise indeed). Though it was too long, so put an ellipsis between "most oppressive" and "the robber baron's cruelty" Then it works. Also added that it was from his groundbreaking essay titled "Screw Bloomberg". Your mileage may vary.

Never trust anyone in government with a Big Idea. As PJ O'Rourke says, Americans were brought up to say "hey, what's the big idea?" in a tone of some disapproval. We are now witnessing the bitter clinging of the Big Idea people as their empire slips away so easily and so preventibly.

Tommy De Seno

Heather I mostly agree and slightly disagree (not on what you said, but on a wrong inference some may take from your post)..

I agree with you 100% that we are killing competition in the insurance market (we should just fire the whole of the DOJ Anti-Trust Unit).

Another problem that wasn't addressed during the Obamacare debate is that many of us are overinsured with layers of coverage. Get in an accident driving on the job, and you have 3 policies - health insurance, workers comp and PIP coverage - all covering the same injury, so they stack them. Wasteful.

Here's where I disagree, and again it's not your words I disagree with, rather a wrong inference that can be taken from them: Painting the insurance companies as victims.

As conservatives we all abhor frivolous lawsuits. Insurance companies are responsible for most of them. There are far more frivilous defenses put up in court by insurance companies who are welching on bets they lost than there are frivolous claims brought by plaintiffs.

While I support insurance companies rights to competition, I won't lionize them for their behavior when they cheat policy holders and clog courts.

Edited on Sep 25, 2010 at 5:33am
G.A. Dean
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G.A. Dean

Heather Higgins:

What I loathe most about the left is how fundamentally immoral they are, and how willing to sacrifice real human beings on the altar of their pretentions. ·

Thank you, Heather, for capturing this important idea so clearly and forcefully. This was the idea I found most compelling in Claire's book on Thatcher. The Left is a force that carries the banners of "fairness" and "helping", but leaves real human misery in it's wake.

mesquito
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mesquito

Recently I've abandoned, in debates, pointing to the Law of Unintended Consequences. It occurred to me that the consequences are brutally, viciously intended.

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

"What I loathe most about the left is how fundamentally immoral they are, and how willing to sacrifice real human beings on the altar of their pretentions."

Right on. Proof? Read Mr. Long's post just above after yours.

Great line, by the way.

tomjedrz
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tomjedrz

G.A. Dean

Heather Higgins:

What I loathe most about the left is how fundamentally immoral they are, and how willing to sacrifice real human beings on the altar of their pretentions. ·

Thank you, Heather, for capturing this important idea so clearly and forcefully. This was the idea I found most compelling in Claire's book on Thatcher. The Left is a force that carries the banners of "fairness" and "helping", but leaves real human misery in it's wake. · Sep 25 at 8:00am

When I first read this quote (in the car this morning) I was struck by how much I agree with her.

Patrick Shanahan
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Patrick Shanahan

Great post, Heather. The great conceit of the left is that it presumes to operate from greater moral heights. But they are false heights, bold actions taken with no concern to the actual impact on real, flesh and blood human beings (channeling my inner Thomas Sowell).

The sad part is that it is all predictable. I think it is this willful blindness that most infuriates me with the Left.

Jaydee_007
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Jaydee_007

I am still having trouble with this logic;

An insurance company denies you coverage of life saving treatment, at which point you can take the company to court and have arbitration as to weather the contract you signed with them has been violated. If it has, the courts will enforce the contract and provide you the coverage.

Now that is Truly Evil!

However, the government denies you life saving treatment because a bureaucrat has determined it too costly, and you have NO recourse what-so-ever!

And that is truly GOOD?

I am genuinely confused!

Edited on Sep 25, 2010 at 9:55pm
Tommy De Seno

You are right Jaydee they are both awful.

Mark Lewis
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Mark Lewis

Jaydee_007: I am still having trouble with this logic;

An insurance company denies you coverage of life saving treatment... If it has, the courts will enforce the contract and provide you the coverage.

Now that is Truly Evil!

However, the government denies you life saving treatment because a bureaucrat has determined it too costly, and you have NO recourse what-so-ever!

And that is truly GOOD?

Jaydee, I am afraid you have been hoodwinked by right-wing demagogues and Republican Hate Speech (RHS).

1. You can't afford a lawsuit, or you die in the process, so the insurance company wins (big against small).

2. The government isn't going to ration health care - that is just RHS. If we run out of money, we will just tax rich people more.


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