Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Blue Yeti ·
March 18, 2011 at 2:07am
The learned men of the left and right are back. This week, Mickey reveals his unique method for avoiding radiation as they debate the future of nukes, the ongoing battles in Wisconsin and over the federal budget, what do to with that pesky NPR, and reveal another side of themselves in a frank discussion of race and welfare.
Commenters, the floor is now open....
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Dec '10
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
This reminds me of one of my favorite bumper stickers:
NUKE THE UNBORN GAY WHALES
Something in there to offend everybody.
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Excellent podcast, once again. I just listened to it, and David, I've got to say, our secret plan to get Mickey to realize he's basically a conservative -- though a panicky one, when it comes to nuclear issues -- is moving nicely along. By 2017, he'll be ours!
And incidentally, I live about 5 blocks from Mickey. I may cover myself with glowing green paint and knock on his door tonight, just to freak him out.
Nov '10
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
There is a misconception here that desperately needs to be righted. Chernobyl was not dangerous because it was an old design. It was dangerous because it was a Soviet design. Chernobyl was built in 1977, six years after Fukushima was built.
There is absolutely nothing inherently dangerous about the Fukushima design. Not one single person will die as a result of what has happened or even what could potentially happen there. Nuclear power has an astoundingly good safety record in comparison with all other viable energy sources. Anyone who says otherwise should be swiftly beaten with a cadmium control rod.
May '10
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Jan-Michael Rives: There is a misconception here that desperately needs to be righted. Chernobyl was not dangerous because it was an old design. It was dangerous because it was a Soviet design. Chernobyl was built in 1977, six years after Fukushima was built.
There is absolutely nothing inherently dangerous about the Fukushima design. Not one single person will die as a result of what has happened or even what could potentially happen there. Nuclear power has an astoundingly good safety record in comparison with all other viable energy sources. Anyone who says otherwise should be swiftly beaten with a cadmium control rod. · Mar 17 at 8:03pm
Didn't you get the memo? Nuclear power plants are radioactive!!!
Dec '10
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Oh for the love of God.
I made it about ten minutes into the podcast and already they've both utterly mangled the nuclear reactor issue, and Mickey has decreed that nuclear power must be sacrificed because he's scared of it.
His solution? Gas taxes.
You couldn't make stuff like this up if you tried.
I give up.
It would be really and truly awesome if the punditry would expend some effort to become educated about something before they speak on it.
I know nothing about flower arranging, and so I refrain from pontificating about it.
Mickey doesn't appear to know, well, anything really, and yet he feels fully qualified to debate policy about everything.
Someone who listened to the whole thing, tell me if I am going to be further infuriated by finishing it, or if my hulk-like rage will subside to mere curmudgeon-like levels as Mickey gets soundly beaten about the head and neck with his own computer mic.
At this point, without a member's endorsement, I am loath to risk that hour and a half on the off chance that it'll be worth listening to.
Fool me once, and all that . . .
Edited on March 18, 2011 at 10:16amMar '11
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Cool Hand,
I enjoyed the pod cast but if the gas tax stuff got you frustrated you may have some issues. Mickey states that the government artificially increasing gas prices is the best way to reach a free market solution on energy and energy use.
May '10
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Jager: Cool Hand,
I enjoyed the pod cast but if the gas tax stuff got you frustrated you may have some issues. Mickey states that the government artificially increasing gas prices is the best way to reach a free market solution on energy and energy use. · Mar 18 at 10:07am
Don't you see the contradiction between artificial and free market?
Dec '10
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Jager: Cool Hand,
I enjoyed the pod cast but if the gas tax stuff got you frustrated you may have some issues. Mickey states that the government artificially increasing gas prices is the best way to reach a free market solution on energy and energy use. · Mar 18 at 10:07am
Yes, because the best way to expand the energy supply is to add a tax to it.
Where do you people come from?
How can you use the terms "artificially increase the price" and "free market solutions" in the same sentence?
As Indigo Montoya would say, "I do not think it means what you think it means."
Mar '11
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
I was not suggesting that I agreed with the idea of artificially increasing prices as a free market solution. Merely that was Mickey's idea.
I enjoy the pod cast because it provides contrasting opinions. Mickey is at least someone to the left that I can listen to, but not usually agree with, without completely going crazy.
Mar '11
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Kaus is the best liberal around to listen to because he's willing to engage the specifics of an issue and allow reality to shape his position; that's what he's done on welfare reform and on immigration. (He doesn't know that much about energy policy.) Limbaugh seems to deal in generalities about liberals and conservatives rather than specifics. Can Ricochet not find a conservative better equipped to engage Kaus on a regular basis?
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Laurel and Hardy, Abbott and Costello--for that matter, Thelma and Louise.
Kaus and Limbaugh? I love this. Smart, tough, respectful of each other, fundamentally civil--and as sharp and enjoying a contrast as exists. Impossible to listen to--and I mean impossible--without learning a lot.
Feb '11
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Add me to the Micky fan club. Granted, a Profile in Courage he is not, but he's is an incredibly funny writer and did much of the heavy lifting on welfare reform, before, during and after. That should be enough to get him a Conservative/Libertarian day pass.
Meanwhile, the other guy with the southern accent was kinda dull...
Sep '10
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
From Mickey Kaus at the Daily Caller (linked from Instapundit)
Umbrage Alert–KF Pisses Off the Right: My second conversation on Ricochet with David Limbaugh is up. Toward the end I attempt to extricate myself from under the negative reaction to comments I made in Episode #1 about guns, conservatives and racism. I suspect I dug myself in deeper. … P.S.: I think you have to be a Ricochet subscriber to listen (it’s cheap). But you don’t have to pay to read the outraged comments from the “members.” I may have lost the members.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/18/kausfiles-outrages-the-right/#ixzz1H35l0ePP
There is one negative comment and quite a few positive ones. Mickey is pretty thin skinned for someone who takes shots at conservatives calling them essentially violence prone racists. Then he's surprised that people might not be thrilled with his ideas for government reaching once again into their wallets in the form of a gas tax when prices are already skyrocketing. I haven't heard the podcast yet ...I'll be back Mickey, you better hide your eyes.
Really, is Kaus surprised people here might disagree?
Edited on March 19, 2011 at 1:57pmSep '10
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
I have to ask. Were comments deleted? Where are the "outraged" comments to which Mickey refers?
Oct '10
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Mickey Kaus is as good as a California Democrat media personality can be. Which is to say that ridicule is mostly unnecessary. He does, in almost every extended utterance, say something that is reasonable. Patently obvious and not worth repeating, to be sure, but reasonable nonetheless. I suppose one might argue this makes his utility as a "useful idiot" somewhat suspect.
Edited on March 19, 2011 at 4:07pmOct '10
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Peter Robinson: Laurel and Hardy, Abbott and Costello--for that matter, Thelma and Louise.
Kaus and Limbaugh? I love this. Smart, tough, respectful of each other, fundamentally civil--and as sharp and enjoying a contrast as exists. Impossible to listen to--and I mean impossible--without learning a lot. · Mar 18 at 5:30pm
It must be your smarts, cuz Kaus doesn't do nutin for me.
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
Mickey was referring to comments made after last week's show.
Edited on March 19, 2011 at 7:33pmSep '10
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
He linked to this thread.. Mickey isn't a stickler for accuracy, that's getting pretty obvious.
Mar '11
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
The "Drill Baby Drill" argument always seems to ignore than the US only produces about 5500K bbl/day, but we import an additional 8500K bbl/day. Offshore production from Federal lands is 1600K bbl/day and Alaska existing production is 600K bbl/day. Current projections suggest that ANWR could produce an additional 700K bbl/day and total US offshore crude production would add another 1100K bbl/day. Putting these online wouldn't replace what we import from Canada alone.
And the existing Alaska production is projected to decrease by about 20% over the next few years.
Jun '10
Re: Kaus/Limbaugh Episode #2: Nuke Wisconsin With Budget Welfare
David better convert Mickey before Mickey converts some of us.