Jobs Speech Recap
Diane Ellis ·
September 9, 2011 at 1:04am
Thanks to all who joined us for Ricochet's live chat coverage of the President's campaign speech on the topic of jobs. Fun times were had by all.
In the comments below, do add your reactions to the speech.
Be sure to join us for an upcoming live chat with Guest Contributor Jack Dunphy next Wednesday at 4:30PM PDT/7:30 EDT.
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Aug '11
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Looks like a jobs bill for Public Union folks and a stimulus for governors in states where the governors are on the same side of the table as AFSCME.
Aug '11
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21 minutes in.. no details... But he is demanding that GOP support every single part of the bill . Because they already have.... ??? Is this then a GOP bill? That'll surprise his base, huh? Wow! He's assuring us that if this bill is passed every American will work, veterans will be supported, and the sun will come out tomorrow...
Aug '11
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22 minutes in. Still no details save extension of some existing legislation. Middle class families face doom of this bill is not passed.
Aug '11
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25 minutes in. A week from monday he will unveil Jobs Bill Deux... The way it will be paid for. Ah-hah, it will include the bromide of taxes on "the wealthiest Americans". Plus reform medicare... to strengthen it. Hmmmm...
Here comes the Paris Hilton tax increase... Warren Buffet wants to pay more... so he demands everyone pay their fair share. Michelle is on her feet... Looking relaxed after her last vacation.
Aug '11
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28 Minutes in.... No tax loopholes for foreign investment. Reduce deficit, pay down debt, and pay for this jobs bill... How... Close loopholes for oil companies... shift to small companies, tax millionaires to put teachers back to work. Clearly the poll positions are the only alternatives at this moment of distress....
Aug '11
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31 minutes in... .Need an economy that pays for the future while creating jobs. Need to outbuild, out educate and out innovate every other country on earth. Up our game, change way we do business. Pay small businesses faster... Cut red tape tying small business away from capital... Allow mortgage rates to fall below 4% for those struggling with payments... Speed up patent process.... Panama, Colombia, S. Korea trade deals !!!! Pitching for free trade <----
Feb '11
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Is this wishful thinking on my part? I think the response, even from Democrats, is tepid. I haven't seen Obama speak in over a year (couldn't stand it), and I am shocked by how ineffectual and weak he appears.
Aug '11
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35 Minutes in: Jobs Council mobilized to provide company training, new skills learned in Community Colleges, production in US as opposed to China. America will be number one again (who is number one?) if we do all of this. Not cut goverrment spending and eliminate most regulations... Well, some rules and regs do put unnecessary regs... have identified over 500 reforms that will unshackle business. Every rule should meet common senses test. But will not wipe out basic protections Americans counted on for decades. Rejects choosing between jobs and safety, hidden fees, mercury poisoning, nor do we have a need to restrict collective bargaining rights to compete in global economy. Not in a race to bottom to reduce pollution standards.. rather race to top...
Aug '11
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40 Minutes: Teddy Roosevelt a legend. The argument... spend no money on anything like roads, schools, unicorns, and butterflies... as opposed to draconian cuts done by people who would not support research into the computer chip. Private greed is bad... Fiscal greed on the other hand.... Cool thing dudes.... Time to meet our responsibilities. Dems are standing and cheering.
His bill will do all of that... or not do that which shouldn't be done or... well anyway... Every part of this bill has already been supported by Republicans so they must pass it now. The people who sent us here do not have the luxury of waiting 14 more months. They are living week to week.. yadda yadda...
Aug '11
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42 minutes: This plan is the right thing to do right now. You should pass it... i intend to take that message to every corner of this country. Ask every American that agrees, tell Washington that doing nothing is not an option. "Man can be as big as he wants." Lets meet the moment lets get to work lets show the world that America is... is... something about greatest nation on earth. And thank you very much... Not a Dem sitting nor dry eyed.
Aug '11
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And as for the details of the bill... Hmmm.... must have missed them. Anyone help me there? Noted that Son of This Jobs Bill coming next week will not be a piece of legislation carrying with it payment details but rather an urging to the Super Committed that they additionally find those details above and beyond what they've gotta' cadge together to meet the promises of the debt limit quarrel. Sigh... Question, what 70s/80s rock lyric best describes all of this....
Aug '11
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Short version: "I've got this awesome bill that every Democrat or Republican who ever lived would pass in a heartbeat; you'll have to pass it to find out what's in it. It'll cost a lot of money, which is why I'm ordering Congress to find a way to pay for it."
Edited on September 9, 2011 at 1:54amJun '10
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Normally, dragging that many strawmen into the room would present a big fire hazard, but the President was careful to provide plenty of hogwash, to put out any fires.
Aug '11
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Agreed. Looked very much like a handout to unions and money for states stupid enough to take it.
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I could not get a live feed to work -- so I got snippets of the talk, sound-bites arbitrarily chosen. I had the sense of wandering in and out of a room while the State of the Union Address was being delivered. Was this anything more than a laundry list?
My bet is that this will hurt Obama. "Another damned speech," people will say, "robotically delivered just like the 10,341 that he delivered back in 2009." The absence of a concrete plan will also do him harm. People want a President, and what they are getting is all-too-obviously a campaigner.
If Karl Rove had actually invented this guy and foisted him on the Democratic Party, he could not have done better.
Sep '11
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I missed the whole thing! (FedEx showed up at 7 on the dot with our replacement Keurig coffee maker. One must have one's priorities....)
Did Obama promise to enact the FAST (Fix America's Schools Today!) plan? Pretty please? (It'll be a boondoggle, but some of that federal boondoggle gravy will flow my way.... Mwoohahahahaha!)
Edited on September 9, 2011 at 2:16amAug '11
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MSNBC has a superpanel composed of Ed Schulz, Al Shaprton, and Chris Mathews analyzing the speech. If the electric grid will only plug into this brainpower we can shut down every coal burning plant and end our dependence on imported fuels. This panel saw a home run hit by O in this speech. Will the undecideds support this "hit"?
Brings to mind that guy recently in the bleachers... the spectator... who reaching for the hit ball... while his young son watched... the innocent believer whose stretch tumbled to him to his death onto the field below.
Oct '10
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At this point, I think it's clear a stimulus package can have an impact--the problem with is that someone has to pay for it--i.e. Asians--and if it's too big, they won't. But if it's too small, it won't do anything. I don't think we can stimulate our way out of this. I think we will recover only when real wages go down and real debt burdens are worked off (swapping the employer payroll and corporate income taxes with a VAT would do the trick, as would old-fashioned currency devaluation and inflation).
Obviously, if the government spent an additional trillion dollars in 2012 the economy would roar back. But who in their right mind would finance that? There are limits to how far we can push our "exorbitant privilege" as the reserve currency.
And imagine the crash afterwords.
Edited on September 9, 2011 at 2:21amMay '10
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Jonah Goldberg had the best line yesterday: He suggested the Republicans should trot somebody out for the response and say only, "Are you ready for some football?!!!"
Apr '11
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At NRO, Yuval Levin has the perfect summary:
"Spend $450 billion dollars now, it will create jobs, and I’ll tell you how I’m going to pay for it a week from Monday. If you disagree, you want to expose kids to mercury.
That about sums up the Obama years."