I'm trying to make sense of the following story from The Hill:

The Tea Party is expected to announce that former Rep. JD Hayworth (R-Ariz.) will become a national spokesperson for the movement, a source close to the matter told The Hill.

Despite Hayworth's unwavering support of tax cuts enacted by President George W. Bush and seeking to permanently end taxes on capital gains and estates, the Tea Party earlier this year did not back his bid to unseat Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).

Hoping to glean some clarifying details, I scrolled through the comments sections. Only more confusion. One reader asks,

Who is "The Tea Party" and who is going to make this announcement for "The Tea Party"?

Another reader dismisses the story altogether:

Whatever. Everyone knows there is no "party leadership" to make such an announcement or even the decision.

And lastly:

I am Tea Party and the only spokesman I/we need is the ballot box!!

I'd be disappointed to see the Tea Party go the way of trying to build itself into a third party with its own establishment, but I can't decipher whether that's what's going on here. Be on the lookout for more details.

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Kenneth
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Kenneth

This is just silly. There is no "the Tea Party". There are hundreds of local Tea Parties, usually coordinated on a part-time, unpaid basis by some mom in her den.

And that's how it should be.

But if there has to be a national spokesman, I hereby nominate Pat Sajak. He's well-know, conservative and articulate. And, having been expelled from Ricochet, he has time on his hands.

As for Hayworth, let him go back to telling credulous infomercial audiences how to collect "free money" from the government.

Kenneth
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Kenneth

Diane, this is totally off-topic, but since you and I, on the West Coast, seem to be the only folks awake, I just wanted to put this out:

Sarah Palin gave a speech in Iowa today in which she paid tribute to, "...renegades gone rogue."

Is it just me, or is that one of the stupidest rhetorical formulations ever?

She scares me.

etoiledunord
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etoiledunord
Mark Lewis
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Mark Lewis
Kenneth: Sarah Palin gave a speech in Iowa today in which she paid tribute to, "...renegades gone rogue."

Rogue renegades go back to the mainstream - Palin is ahead of the curve again!

Mark Lewis
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Mark Lewis
Kenneth: But if there has to be a national spokesman, I hereby nominate Pat Sajak. He's well-know, conservative and articulate. And, having been expelled from Ricochet, he has time on his hands.

Pat - don't appoint Hayworth. Appoint Beck!

mesquito
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mesquito

"A source close to the matter."

Heh.

Ten bucks says that's Hayworth.

Ursula Hennessey

Hmm. Right after I read this, Diane, I read this in the NY Times. Any connection, do you think? The fellow, Sal Russo, is described as "the chief strategist behind an upstart group called the Tea Party Express," and is also described as controversial and "divisive" within the movement as a whole. Anyone hear of him?

FeliciaB
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FeliciaB
Ursula Hennessey: Hmm. Right after I read this, Diane, I read this in the NY Times. Any connection, do you think? The fellow, Sal Russo, is described as "the chief strategist behind an upstart group called the Tea Party Express," and is also described as controversial and "divisive" within the movement as a whole. Anyone hear of him? · Sep 19 at 6:12am

Yeah, I keep getting junk mail from that person... I signed one online petition, and now all kinds of people are emailing me. I've gotten quite familiar with that name. Lesson learned. NEVER sign an online petition!

Diane Ellis, Ed.

Kenneth:

Sarah Palin gave a speech in Iowa today in which she paid tribute to, "...renegades gone rogue."

Is it just me, or is that one of the stupidest rhetorical formulations ever?

I can't decide whether that's a double negative or just super redundant. I'm leaning toward the former.

Diane Ellis, Ed.

Ursula Hennessey: Hmm. Right after I read this, Diane, I read this in the NY Times. Any connection, do you think? The fellow, Sal Russo, is described as "the chief strategist behind an upstart group called the Tea Party Express," and is also described as controversial and "divisive" within the movement as a whole. Anyone hear of him? · Sep 19 at 6:12am

Yikes. If anyone is exploiting the tea party, it's gotta be this guy. It must take some gall to presume to speak for several million people without even being elected. It looks like he's the self-appointed king of TEA.

mesquito
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mesquito

Diane Ellis, Ed.

Kenneth:

Sarah Palin gave a speech in Iowa today in which she paid tribute to, "...renegades gone rogue."

Is it just me, or is that one of the stupidest rhetorical formulations ever?

I can't decide whether that's a double negative or just super redundant. I'm leaning toward the former. · Sep 19 at 8:08am

It's both. But it's also awesomely alliterative. So it works.

Shoshanna
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Shoshanna

Given that the Tea Partier receiving the most press at this time is the ultimate political wingnut and and extreme embarrassment Christine O'Donnell-- why is this woman allowed to roam around loose, let alone run for office?-- I'd think there would be a major sigh of relief within the ranks at having someone at least relatively competent and rational step up to the plate.

With the clip of O'Donnell discussing her past "dabbling" in witchcraft (and her midnight picnic date on a Satanic altar, complete with blood) certain to get major play from now until November, any attention Hayworth can draw away from her is a major blessing. As it is, I think we can now unquestionably count Delaware as a win for the Dems, as O'Donnell appears to be the gift that keeps on giving.

Candidates are vetted for a reason.

This is what happens when well-funded amateurs play at national politics-- they're like a group of ADHD 5-year-olds running around with lit matches and having neither any conception of nor concern for the destruction they're going to bring about.

Edited on Sep 19, 2010 at 9:40am
Jeanne Patterson
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Jeanne Patterson

Excellent post from one of my favorite blogs, Legal Insurrection:

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/09/memo-to-right-lombardi-rule-is-in.html

Along with Professor Jacobson's advice, is now the time to amplify & obsess over each & every report of madness on the right? That is, of course, the purpose of these well-placed items that will only increase in number and intensity in the coming weeks. How many times do we have to watch this play out before we stop salivating like Pavlov's dogs?

Edited on Sep 19, 2010 at 10:00am
Diane Ellis, Ed.

Point taken, Jeanne, but do you mean to suggest that a story about JD Hayworth becoming the so-called national spokesman for the Tea Party reveals any kind of madness? However confusing the story may be, I don't think it does.

But otherwise, I agree. Why don't we go and amuse ourselves with blunders committed by leftists? Why don't we remind ourselves of all the imbecilic and menacing legislation they've already passed and hope to pass if they stay in power? Why be hypercritical of our own people when we've got elections to win, and when being hypersensitive to all of their shortcomings can't help us one iota.

Jeanne Patterson
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Jeanne Patterson

Only in that it appeared to me to be a piece planted by leftists (in The Hill without any background documentation) to continue to paint the Tea Party as wacky since J.D. Hayworth has been portrayed as slightly unhinged too. The "Tea Party" as an organized group with a leader does not and never has existed. But we pick it up & run with it anyway, further marginalizing the Tea Party, O'Donnell, and all things right.

I'm not saying we need to stifle free speech & discussion. But sometimes I think we need to recognize that we're playing right into their hands.

Kenneth
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Kenneth

As I said at the top of the thread, I thought it was silly. Just some puckish idea somebody at The Hill had, playing off Hayworth's infomercial stint.

And Diane, lacking a cynical bone in her body, picked it up and said, "Huh? What is this shiny thing?"

Now let's talk about Palin's rhetorical skills....

G.A. Dean
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Diane Ellis, Ed.

Kenneth:

Sarah Palin gave a speech in Iowa today in which she paid tribute to, "...renegades gone rogue."

Is it just me, or is that one of the stupidest rhetorical formulations ever?

I can't decide whether that's a double negative or just super redundant. I'm leaning toward the former. · Sep 19 at 8:08am

It is a double-negative. A "renegade gone rogue" is back to conformity, I think. Sorta like a devout Christian who dabbled in Wicca.

Kenneth
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Kenneth

G.A. Dean

Diane Ellis, Ed.

Kenneth:

Sarah Palin gave a speech in Iowa today in which she paid tribute to, "...renegades gone rogue."

Is it just me, or is that one of the stupidest rhetorical formulations ever?

I can't decide whether that's a double negative or just super redundant. I'm leaning toward the former. · Sep 19 at 8:08am

It is a double-negative. A "renegade gone rogue" is back to conformity, I think. Sorta like a devout Christian who dabbled in Wicca. · Sep 19 at 12:16pm

So in the space of a few days, Christine O'Donnell has lost the critical wanking-college-students, Evangelical-who-believes-the-Anti-Christ-strides-the-Earth and body-pierced-Wiccan-Goth voting segments.

No comin' back from that.

Edited on Sep 19, 2010 at 2:02pm
flownover
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flownover

We better be ready to answer :

(1) What coven ?

(2) Is it Tempe, Temple, or Templar ? ..having been there nothing much of worth evident

(3) Who me elect ?

Alfred E Newman


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