EJHill · Nov 17, 2011 at 7:46pm

In this morning's syndicated column, George Will quotes Thomas Sowell: “The first lesson of economics is scarcity. There is never enough of anything to fully satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics.”

The Fed

With a presidential election year looming and the OWS crowd talking of escalating their militancy by burning down Macy's and blocking avenues of transportation, Addison Wiggin of Forbes.com offers up these tidbits for your consideration:

  • There are $600 trillion worth of derivatives held by banks, investment houses and governments worldwide. That's 10 times the world's annual GDP.
  • Before the '08 crash the Fed owed $800 billion, almost all of it in Treasuries. Today, they owe twice that in mortgage derivatives alone but have less assets than before.
  • The Fed has $52.5 billion of capital backing a $2.7 trillion balance sheet. That's a leverage ratio of more than 51-to-1. Points out Euro Pacific Capital's Michael Pento, "If the value of their portfolio were to fall by just 2%, the Fed itself would be wiped out."
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The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

Kind of argues for sweeping changes...

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

We can spend Our way out of it.

Frozen Chosen
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Frozen Chosen

 Looks like my brother, who has been predicting the collapse of the US economy every year for the past 30 years, may finally be right!

Roberto
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Roberto

Hmm, worse than I think? How about adding in all the municipalities that are effectively insolvent and the trillions in unfunded state pension liabilities, then you're getting into my territory.  My reading this weekend will consist of Leverage: How Cheap Money Will Destroy the World.

You're too much of a cockeyed optimist EJHill.

Edited on Nov 17, 2011 at 11:45am
Roberto
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Roberto

Also for those of us who enjoy a good the "end of the world is nigh" an upbeat missive from Barnhardt Capital Management:

It is with regret and unflinching moral certainty that I announce that Barnhardt Capital Management has ceased operations...I have learned over the last week that MF Global is almost certainly the mere tip of the iceberg. There is massive industry-wide exposure to European sovereign junk debt. While other firms may not be as heavily leveraged as Corzine had MFG leveraged, and it is now thought that MFG’s leverage may have been in excess of 100:1, they are still suicidally leveraged and will likely stand massive, unmeetable collateral calls in the coming days and weeks as Europe inevitably collapses. I now suspect that the reason the Chicago Mercantile Exchange did not immediately step in to backstop the MFG implosion was because they knew and know that if they backstopped MFG, they would then be expected to backstop all of the other firms in the system when the failures began to cascade – and there simply isn’t that much money in the entire system. In short, the problem is a SYSTEMIC problem, not merely isolated to one firm. 

Edited on Nov 17, 2011 at 11:59am
Frozen Chosen
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Frozen Chosen

Do you think I can get my cruise in next February before the whole thing collapses? 

Some people say to hunker down for the bad times.  I say enjoy life now because there won't be anything fun to do in the bad times!

kesbar
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kesbar

Clearly, America has become a little lazy.  We're not paying our fair share.  Time to eat our peas.  Buy another Volt to replace the one that burned up.

Oh well.  I look forward to the coming super-inflation when my mortgage payment is less than my grocery bill.  All will be right with the world then.

The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

 I should have bought the trailer house on 2.5 acres because then at least I could grow my own potatoes.


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Anon

That's racist...

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin

Perhaps all the obvious cronyism and payoffs to the politically connected are just a sign that our leaders are getting more careless with their cover-ups as they rush to accumulate as much cash as they can before it all comes crashing down.

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin

Double-post!

Edited on Nov 17, 2011 at 8:03pm
wilber forge
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wilber forge

 Amusing in a way, ony if one could muster some uplifting thoughts.


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CitizenOfTheRepublic

well that's an unpleasant thought.

perhaps putting my dollars in "investments" such as M193, M855, & 7.62x54R wasn't as stupid as i sometimes think.  :(
we are doomed. 

M1919A4
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M1919A4

I should include 30-06, .45, and 308.  

David Williamson
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David Williamson

Frozen Chosen

Some people say to hunker down for the bad times.  I say enjoy life now because there won't be anything fun to do in the bad times! 

Well, yes -- it is all gonna collapse, or we are all gonna die -- neither prospect is rosy.


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CitizenOfTheRepublic
M1919A4: I should include 30-06, .45, and 308.   · Nov 17 at 8:43pm

agreed.  except those old Russian rifles cost ~$100 and a spam can of 420 is currently $94 at cheaper than dirt.  much more affordable than stockpiling that Springfield round...so i'm nowhere near a k of the 30-06.  and as a bonus, if i buy many more of those M/N's i'll be able to reenact scenes from Dr. Zhivago...that 8-foot long bayonet is something else...

wilber forge
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wilber forge

 Once heard happiness is a belt fed weapon.

LowcountryJoe
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LowcountryJoe

EJHill: I

  • There are $600 trillion worth of derivatives held by banks, investment houses and governments worldwide. That's 10 times the world's annual GDP.

In my opinion, this isn't even a legitimate worry.  If everything in the world were liquidated, 600 with a "T" wouldn't/couldn't be approached.  Whoever holds those kind of derivatives will not have their contracts fulfilled should the crap hit the fan.  The net effect would cause a complete reset, a switch to a different money, and accounting back-and-forth that yields nothing all the productive.  It would be disruptive, true, but markets would iron themselves out relatively quickly while the legal system would turn away cases where a contract wasn't honored.

bereket kelile
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bereket kelile

Not to disagree with the thrust of your argument, but that $600 trillion figure and others like it is probably not very accurate. I'm no financial expert but from what I could find by those who are, there's a difference between the nominal (or notional) value of a derivative and it's actual value. The best explanation I heard is that to buy an option to purchase $10,000 in oil is not the same thing as buying $10,000 in oil. So, the figure represents the notional value, or the amount that the options refer to, but not what's actually tied up in the derivative. I've also read that a lot of it gets cancelled out by the opposing bets on any particular movement in the price of a stock or commodity, so that even the notional value is overstated. 

I haven't come across much discussion on the issue so if anyone can enlighten me I would appreciate it. 


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