It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
Something to be thankful for....
Since neither John McCain nor Barack Obama are hunters, conservatives were spared the superficial pandering to gun owners, that we witnessed from Kerry & Bush during the run up to the 2004 election. An even more grace-laden reprieve, I would say, is that we were thus spared the ill-conceived notion that the 2nd Amendment has something to do with a recreational activity or providing your family their dinner.
But all of that, as well as vice presidential shootings accidents and gun hating first ladies can be swept aside so room can be made for more pressing matters.
Fall has started to settle in, here in Colorado. Tonight Denver got its first real snow, and for the moment, the city is quiet and pristine. Only 36 hours ago, we scored a record high temp. of 80 if you'd believe it. For many of us, this is the season our mind turns to a slightly more predatory pursuit, and I don't mean politics. Most of the big game seasons for archery and black powder rifles have closed, and we are in the 2nd of 4 rifle seasons for elk and deer, but the day that's marked on my calendar is Nov. 12; opening day of pheasant season. I've got a new Remington 870 Express Super Mag. that needs breaking in. Nothing fancy. A 12 ga. pump with a walnut stock, but reliable as the day is long. So as I give this gun it's first good oiling, I thought I'd see how my fellow Richoteer Sportsman have fared so far this season.
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Any tall tales, or young hunters first outings to report? Maybe this time of year just brings back a fond memory worth sharing? I love a good story, and would presume I'm not alone.
This year I will have the vicarious pleasure of accompanying a close friend and his father on opening day, for the former's stepson's first trip hunting. In my family at least, this is one of the few rights of passage we have left, and I am always delighted to celebrate it with others.
On another note, since we have such a wealth of life experience at the various ends of the interweb here, do any of you have good wild game recipes? I figure it's worth asking since we're on the topic. Fish as well, I never quite know what to do with brook trout.
I know a back strap makes a great barbeque, but I've been looking for a good way to mellow the gamy flavor and toughness of venison so I can spare the rest of a deer from becoming summer sausage. (not that I have ever seemed to get my fill of summer sausage.) Also, does someone have a good method for cooking duck that leaves it a little less greasy?
I hope October has been generous to you all, and Happy Hunting!
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May '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
Dogs are tasty ;-)
Still, I would strongly disagree with the inhumane methods sometimes used to kill them, or any captive animal, for meat.
Different people have different moral frameworks upon which they base their decision on such matters. As a Christian, the Bible gives me mine. Killing animals for meat was not part of God's original plan. Adam and Eve were vegetarians, and it wasn't until Noah that God gave people the animals as food.
That said, God did give us the animals for food. At the same time, he forbids being cruel to animals. So while eating meat, at least we should do our best to be humane about it.
I'm not against hunting at all, but I'd rather wait until I had a good clean shot that would take the animal out as quickly as possible.
May '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
Chris Deleon
I'm not against hunting at all, but I'd rather wait until I had a good clean shot that would take the animal out as quickly as possible. · Oct 27 at 9:02am
That is certainly the ethic of the hunter.
Oct '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
Re. I'm not against hunting at all, but I'd rather wait until I had a good clean shot that would take the animal out as quickly as possible.
Most hunters I have known would pass on anything but a clean kill. No animal need suffer needlessly.
Oct '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
Mark Wilson
Tom Paine
It's spelled "nary".
It's spelled "hypocrisy".
Oh, and it's spelled "privilege".
It's spelled "accolades".
It's spelled "troll". · Oct 27 at 12:04am
And more specifically, it's spelled "Kenneth".
Oct '10
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CoolHand
Tom Paine: My wife and I once had dinner with a very wealthy man, who could have done both of us a great deal of good, in terms of our businesses.
He'd just returned from Africa and was eager to share photographs of the animals - an elephant, a rhinoceros and a lion - that he had, at great expense, and in cosseted luxury, murdered.
As soon as we said our goodbyes, I turned to my wife and said, "I never want to hear from him again". · Oct 26 at 11:05am
I have suspected for some time that you are Kenneth by another name, but this post confirms it.
Anyone who considers killing and eating an animal "murder" is simply not an adult.
You'll understand it when/if you finally finish growing up. · Oct 26 at 6:42pm
I've suspected the very same thing as well, CoolHand. I figured he'd been shown the door for good after his horrible personal attack on Lance about three months ago. Evidently not.
May '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
Tom Paine
CoolHand
Tom Paine
I never said anything about "eating". The guy did not eat the rhinoceros, the elephant or the lion; he simply murdered them. Sort of a thrill-kill thing.
Well, if you'd expended even a moment of time in research you'd realize that he's not allowed to take the meat, only the trophies.
When you fell a rhino/elephant/other exotic in Africa, the terms of the license dictates that the village nearest the kill site gets the meat. They usually invite the hunter to a feast in his honor, but not always.
That's how the law works there.
I'm sure those local folks were tickled crapless that he "murdered" those critters on their land, what with them being tasty and whatnot.
Most people Observe->Research->Learn->Experience->React, but you've short circuited the process to efficiently jump directly from Observe to React with narry a care in the world for what you missed in the middle. · Oct 26 at 6:52pm
It's spelled "nary". · Oct 26 at 6:59pm
Not if you're saying it with a Scottish dialect.
Oct '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
To specifically address the topic of this thread, I've never been hunting. My late brother, however, was a hunting enthusiast and on his last hunting trip (in the winter of '05), he bagged an elk up in the Cascades in western Washington. He lived in Yakima, where my sister-in-law, niece, and nephew still reside.
A few years ago I had purchased a double-barreled shotgun in anticipation of a time when I could accompany him on one of his trips. But that day never came. Now, the gun lies in my closet, still unused - a symbol of opportunities lost.
My brother was no "murderer", and shame on anyone who says or otherwise implies that he was.
Edited on October 27, 2011 at 8:56pmMay '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
CoolHand
Tom Paine:
I have suspected for some time that you are Kenneth by another name, but this post confirms it.
When does Lady K get to come back under another pseudonym?
Oct '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
FeliciaB
CoolHand
Tom Paine:
I have suspected for some time that you are Kenneth by another name, but this post confirms it.
When does Lady K get to come back under another pseudonym? · Oct 27 at 11:58am
Good question, Felicia. Very good question!
Oct '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
Seriously, I believe that we Ricochet members deserve an explanation as to why someone who repeatedly violated and continues to violate the Code of Conduct is being permitted to post here once again.
Sep '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
Mark Wilson
Tom Paine
It's spelled "nary".
It's spelled "hypocrisy".
Oh, and it's spelled "privilege".
It's spelled "accolades".
It's spelled "troll". · Oct 27 at 12:04am
Its spelled "sockpuppet". And true to my word, I'm not posting on Ricochet again until this is resolved.
May '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
My solution for gaminess? Bacon. Wrap it in bacon, toss some bacon in your stew, fry it in bacon grease... Bacon, bacon, bacon! :)
Jul '10
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Grendel
Jerry Carroll: (1) I don't know what was more disgusting, the lengths to which they went to, well, yes, murder those living creatures or their pride in the act afterward.
(2) I freely grant that animals don't have the same value as humans. Yet ... isn't it immoral to knowingly inflict pain on [them]? ...If you have a dog, you know they are capable of a range of emotions.
But emotions are not signs of higher intellectectual function and moral standing in animals. Emotions are animal functions and we are animals.
What distinguishes us is our intellect and free will, which enable us to bring emotional impulses (passions) under rational control. Because we can do this, we claim the right not to be subject to others' wills as means to their ends. Pain has nothing to do with it.
Edited on Oct 27 at 05:23 am
Thank you, Spock.
Dec '10
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wilber forge
Sounds like someone who would dredge prime venison in flour and fry it in lard.
Some folks should not even be trusted to smoke smelt. · Oct 26 at 8:32pm
You baggin' on my canned deer recipe!?
'Cause I've killed men for less . . .
Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. Nummy just doesn't quite describe it.
And yes, I have on occasion flour dredged and pan fried venison loin.
That too was quite tasty in its own right. Wouldn't suggest doing that with any other cut though, unless the deer is very young.
Them critters get tough in a hurry as they age.
Oct '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
I love the taste of "murdered" venison. Tastes like victory!
Oct '10
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RE. CoolHand.
One of many things my brothers and I learned from Mom was how to cook a proper meal. This includes one that went on to be a Chef and open his own place.
Canned meat products and meals are in the category of Spam or MREs. Perhaps a visit to The Potted Meat Museum online would be of interest. Amusing products there.
The second line in your response is uncalled for at best. Either boastfull or foolish, it has no place here.
Oct '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
Once had a freezer full of Mutton and mouths to feed that hated the stuff. No big suprise there. Creativity in the kitchen won over. Just the smell of Mutton cooking will empty a kitchen with the windows open.
Dec '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
wilber forge: RE. CoolHand.
One of many things my brothers and I learned from Mom was how to cook a proper meal. This includes one that went on to be a Chef and open his own place.
Canned meat products and meals are in the category of Spam or MREs. Perhaps a visit to The Potted Meat Museum online would be of interest. Amusing products there.
The second line in your response is uncalled for at best. Either boastfull or foolish, it has no place here. · Oct 27 at 7:23pm
Dude, you need to have a sense of humor installed, stat. I had assumed that nobody was so uptight to take serious a death threat made over a gravy recipe. But, as usual, I underestimated the stupidity present on the internet by an order of magnitude. It was a joke, lighten up Francis.
If you don't like my taste in cooking, fine, as they say, there's no accounting for it.
To borrow your oh-so high and mighty tone, snobbery has no place here either, especially over something as ubiquitous as food.
Share your recipes or don't, but you need to stow the food snob crap.
Oct '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
Re, CoolHand.
One does have a sense of humor, perhaps darker than most, save it has served well.
With regard to the verbage, should there have been a sense of humor evident in your posts. There was no clear measure of same.
Know that if someone throws down the gauntlet, it will be responded to in kind. One is neither a snob or stupid by the way and never walk away from a challenge.
This style of dialog may step on a toe or two, expected to say the least.
Shall we just put this to bed and shake hands as it were ?
Edited on October 28, 2011 at 11:27pmDec '10
Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.
Oh, I assure you, stupidity and snobbery are not mutually exclusive in any way.
That said, I don't know you from Adam, so our first contact came in the form of an insult from you directed at my taste in food.
That's a bad way to start any conversation, and our went as you might expect from there (though I intended my response to be of the good natured variety, in the way that men sometimes joke and relate to one another).
If delivered in person, it would have been intoned in a gravely pirate voice, likely accompanied by a squinted eye and/or the brandishing of a hook shaped finger(s).
Edited on October 29, 2011 at 1:00am