Peter Robinson · February 7, 2012 at 8:06am

Here's Clint:

Here's Karl Rove:

I was frankly offended by it. I'm a huge fan of Clint Eastwood. I thought it was an extremely well done ad. But it is a sign of what happens when you have Chicago-style politics. The President of the United States' political minions are, in essence, using our tax dollars to buy corporate advertising and the best wishes of the management, which has benefited by getting a bunch of our money that they'll never pay back.

"Frankly offended."

You?

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gobluesasquatch

Wait, Karl Rove was offended. I'm still offended at eight years of uncontrolled budgets and a pointless war in Iraq which gave us Speaker Pelosi, President Obama and even greater deficits. Coming from the D, this was just another commercial that unfortunately was aimed at the Detroit "we're down now, but we're coming back - we're gritty, tough, and we don't back away from a fight" type commercial. It was similar to the Imported from Detroit commercial last year. 
I don't think the ad will be particularly useful much of the country, as I've watched these ads run with Phoenix natives, and they just scratch their heads. It really is a rust-belt thing, and has little to do with our current failure of a president.

Neocons - go back to conjuring up boogeyman rogue nations and some league of bad nations so we can spend on the military like liberals spend on welfare. Don't create false enemies with a car commercial. Very unbecoming.  

Aimee Jones
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Aimee Jones

More than championing the bailouts and U.S. purchase of GM, I heard, "It's half-time in America" as a thinly veiled re-election ad for Obama.

Erik Larsen
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Erik Larsen

CAn we use the term "dog whistle".

Spin
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Ken Owsley

As I watched this I became aware of an attack by aliens. Because that is what you assume when you watch this, that some outside force is attacking us. But it's not an outside force is it? It's us, our own greed, and ignorance. We want what we want, when we want it,and we don't want to pay much for it, but the people who get it to us better get paid a lot and it better not have come from China.

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin

Sisyphus:

Insulted, offended, disappointed, provoked, and affirmed in my general divorce from television as a medium. 

Yeah, but without a television, how are you supposed to watch Phineas and Ferb? Geez!

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin
Aimee Jones: More than championing the bailouts and U.S. purchase of GM, I heard, "It's half-time in America" as a thinly veiled re-election ad for Obama.

Yep. I was only half-paying attention, but that phrase definitely struck me as an obvious campaign message.

Gus Marvinson
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Gus Marvinson

Rove got this one right. How Eastwood thought this was a good idea is beyond me.

Aeromir
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Aeromir

The Republicans are in trouble in November if even Dirty Harry can be pwned by Barack.

Terry
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Terry

Mark Steyn was great on this topic Monday on the most listened to radio program in America.  Especially good was the part when a clueless caller took Mr. Steyn to task for not being on board with "the spirit of America" embodied in the ad. Priceless stuff.

thelonious
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thelonious

 It sounds like Clint is overplaying his gravely voice.  Does he really sound that rough in real life?  The commercial itself was pure propoganda.  The commercial didn't show or explain the superioty of the product it made a guilt laden patriotic plea for us to save a failing city and company.

Ploni
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Ploni

Well I suppose that I am offended, but not just at the President.  The illegal bailout of the car companies began under Rove's most famous client, a "compassionate conservative" who claimed first that he had no authority under law to do so, and then did it anyway when Congress declined to act.  He justified his illegal (and politically treacherous) act by claiming that the unauthorized diversion of other people's money to clueless and corrupt corporations was "the responsible thing to do".  President Obama may be enjoying the meal, but the table was set by the casual conservatism that Rove made his name promoting.

Mollie Hemingway, Ed.
thelonious:  The commercial itself was pure propoganda.  The commercial didn't show or explain the superioty of the product it made a guilt laden patriotic plea for us to save a failing city and company. · 6 minutes ago

Yes! I actually enjoy a bit of hathos and glurge, time to time. And the beginning of this ad was awesome and got me to stop talking to my couchmate and listen. But what really bothered me about this commercial was the let-down at the end. What a disappointing product. And if you tell me that I have to buy a car out of patriotic guilt, you're basically admitting that you know it's a bad product, too.

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

I still get a sadistic chuckle out of remembering the horror of Daimler Benz figuring out how much they got snookered for in buying Chrysler. Its even a case study now. Bob Eaton made out very well on that one, of course.

Aaron Miller
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Aaron Miller

I couldn't care less if Karl Rove says he's offended by anything. Even when he's actually saying something he believes, he says it to score political points for Republicans.

This is basically a pro-union ad. It's just about selling cars, but the mere existence of the Detroit manufacturers is an affront while unions have such a stranglehold over them. Owners should be free to be owners, and managers free to be managers. Forceful domination of a company by its workers is a reflection of communism.

I don't know if Eastwood is pro-union, but he probably considers it patriotic to keep American vehicle manufacturers afloat. Not every American company represents the values which made America strong and noble.

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She
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She

 I suppose we really shouldn't start to worry until Karl Rove moves from talking about being 'frankly offended' to his calling for 'fundamental change' . . .

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy

Here's a pretty great satirical re-imagining of Clint's speech from The Prince Arthur Herald.

An excerpt:

The people of Detroit really have very little to do with this ad, but they’ll be referenced anyway. This ad was actually shot in Los Angeles and New Orleans but hey, halftime doesn’t discriminate. Detroit almost lost everything and now it has been upgraded from a sell to a don’t buy because Chrysler now wants an additional three billion or so from the federal government to fund further green initiatives and that has proven to be bad business. So the Motor City is fighting again, but not for long, because this business model is not even remotely sustainable. Look how well Europe is doing with their bailouts. If it’s halftime here, soon we’ll be joining them in their own personal overtime where the opposing team is marching into the red zone and your defense just came down with a late case of food poisoning. 

(FYI: The Prince Arthur Herald is a Canadian conservative student newspaper. I imagine you would never expect to see those four words strung together like that.)

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy
Gus Marvinson: How Eastwood thought this was a good idea is beyond me.

For what it's worth, here's Eastwood's defense:

"I just want to say that the spin stops with you guys, and there is no spin in that ad. On this I am certain.  

l am certainly not politically affiliated with Mr. Obama. It was meant to be a message about just about job growth and the spirit of America. I think all politicians will agree with it. I thought the spirit was OK.  

I am not supporting any politician at this time. 

Chrysler to their credit didn’t even have cars in the ad.  

Anything they gave me for it went for charity. 

If any Obama or any other politician wants to run with the spirit of that ad, go for it."

Source: http://nation.foxnews.com/clint-eastwood/2012/02/06/clint-eastwood-i-am-certainly-not-affiliated-mr-obama


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John Frei

Perhaps if Clint had seen the following video he wouldn't be telling us to do like Detroit has done for our "second half":

http://youtu.be/1hhJ_49leBw

Wylee Coyote
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Wylee Coyote

Didn't they do a similar ad with Eminem last year? 

At least Chrysler is upgrading their pitchmen, while they downgrade their cars and their bondholders.

Sisyphus
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Sisyphus

Del Mar Dave

Sisyphus: ...Insulted, offended, disappointed....   

...but not entirely surprised.  Don't forget that it wasn't that long ago when Hollywood was cooing about how Eastwood had "grown" or "matured" - the same way that Supreme Court Justices have done.

A moral tin ear from a Hollywood figure? I'm shocked. Simply shocked.


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